I second the suggestion of getting a used GPS (or sticking with your phone + power bank).
I had been using my phone, but I got a used Garmin Edge 1030 from a friend for $150 right after the 1030+ came out, which, early adopter that he is, he had already bought. I happily used it for 3 years or so when the battery literally exploded, popping the screen off the computer. Ordered a new battery, and while waiting for it, put my phone back on the bike and discovered that I really liked how Ride with GPS could display a useful map (with heat map for spontaneous route changes), and at the bottom of the screen the data I also wanted to track. namely heart rate, cadence, power, etc. I liked using the phone so much that I didn’t bother replacing the battery for months. I finally did, and now I am back to using the computer. Here is why: The main advantage of the GPS is that the screen is much more legible in bright sun light. The second advantage for me is the much longer battery life. Third in line is the super clear turn by turn navigation. The main advantage of the phone for me is the simultaneous display of map and data. I did also have the problem recently that while commuting in a light rain, enough water got into the charge port that the phone refused to charge. So if you do use your phone and a power bank, make sure to plug it in before it starts raining. I actually started looking into power banks that can lock to a phone case and a bike mount and charge wirelessly, but there are only a couple of options and they are $80-100 if I recall. Plus the mount and the case. Here is a good video lauding the benefits of older computers. I think their favorite is the Garmin 830, a smaller version of the one I have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6SPRDitfiM Cheers, and have fun! Gernot On Sunday, June 29, 2025 at 10:08:16 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: > I'm new to the GPS bike computer party, but I had mag-sensor ones for > years. I just got so irritated with using my phone as the actual navigation > device that I started looking around at GPS units. > > And it ended up that I bought one, and started using it, and, as I climb > the learning curve, which gets pretty steep pretty quickly if you're the > kind of user who tweaks the hell out of their devices, I'm enjoying it > quite a bit. Out of the box, it works just fine... you could own the thing > for years and never feel the need to change anything. Adding the > RideWithGPS integration is easy enough, and while it's a bit awkward in use > at first, it's not hard to learn and it always works the same way. > > Or, you can dive down the customization rodent warren, like I have. After > a couple of days of ownership, I've already added a bunch of 3rd-party > functions. There's kind of a "shareware community" around these things. > They're Turing-complete, general-purpose touchscreen computers with a > task-specific OS. The manufacturers very smartly released SDKs for them, so > that anyone with the skill set who thought "wouldn't it be awesome if it > could do <$COOL_THING>?" could actually make it happen. As is always the > case, good things followed from this decision. > > Of course, many bad things also followed, like the infestation of social > media features and Strava and all the rest of that rot. But it hasn't been > hard so far to avoid stepping in any of it... just the occasional annoyance > of "Would you like to share this ride with social media?" and not much else. > > My big tip: > > Craigslist. > > GPS units are the kind of things that decline in value like a peregrine > falcon going after a baby duckling. The top-of-the-line model from a > generation or two back can usually be had for less than entry-level money. > I got my Garmin Edge 1030, so two gens old, (1030 --> 1030+ --> 1040,) for > $120 bucks. These things are typically bracket-priced, so the 1040 is the > $799 Garmin now, and the 1030 was then. > > And, while the thing's about as far away from the "fly low and slow, with > proven solutions and high-quality simplicity" ethos that shapes so much of > how we do what we do, and why we do it that way as it can be, it shows all > the signs of being useful enough and good enough to live nearly full-time > on my bike... > > And that's enough. > > --Shannon > (Plus, if I end up hating it, I can probably sell it and almost break > even.) > > On Sunday, June 29, 2025 at 3:50:03 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > >> Hey folks! >> I just used it today for the first time and loved it. >> It’s still at 98% and I was out for 3 hours. >> >> Was able to listen to music on my ride which I loved without my phone >> draining. >> >> I’ve done the airplane mode but it still drained an awful lot. ESP >> listening to music. >> >> Cheers! >> Lucia >> >> >> Lucia Matioli >> Sr Creative Consultant >> goodthinkingco.com >> linkedin.com/in/luciamatioli/ <https://www.linkedin.com/in/luciamatioli/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 1:26 PM Kath Sparrow <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I also agree a wahoo is a good bit of kit in regards to routes and >>> battery power. I am a bit of a gadget fanatic though. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 at 20:21, Leah Peterson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> There is so much foolishness, James. My good advice that he should cut >>>> his hair is also being ignored! Actual words from him: Mom. What is the >>>> POINT of practicing first? If we get stuck, we get stuck. What’s the >>>> difference?” >>>> >>>> Gee, kid. How about getting stuck without a necessity for just the one >>>> overnight and realizing it before we set out for 215 miles and 6 days?! >>>> >>>> Good tips about airplane mode! I didn’t know Ride with GPS would still >>>> work! >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 29, 2025, at 3:02 PM, James Poulson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Leah >>>> >>>> I would agree with others that a back up battery is a good idea for >>>> your phone, especially if you are camping since you might be challenged to >>>> find outlets at all your stops. I try to grab power where I can along the >>>> route. >>>> >>>> Another thing that I have found to be hugely helpful is to put your >>>> phone is 'Airplane Mode' while riding. The gps will work fine while in >>>> this >>>> mode but your phone won't be wasting battery trying to find a cell phone >>>> tower/signal. Ride with GPS will still work fine. You just won't be able >>>> to >>>> receive phone calls, text or random notices. >>>> >>>> Good luck and have a great time with your son. >>>> >>>> Boy Scouts would have been a cure of his 'no planning' planning, but >>>> too late for that. Hopefully experience and maturity will cure him of that >>>> foolishness.:-) >>>> >>>> James P >>>> MO >>>> On Saturday, June 28, 2025 at 1:46:26 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Friends, >>>>> >>>>> I’m a week away from my mother-son bikecamping trip. I’ve been >>>>> practicing pitching my tent in the backyard and breaking it down, trying >>>>> to >>>>> perfect and speed up the process. I’m pretty good! >>>>> >>>>> I’ve been sitting down to really plan my route, and it’s been >>>>> frustrating. I have an iPad with a keyboard that I do everything with, >>>>> and >>>>> it seems like maybe Ride with GPS was meant for laptops. It’s awkward. It >>>>> doesn’t feel intuitive. I feel like I’m always losing where I’m at and >>>>> what >>>>> I’m looking for. But it seems to be the universal favorite app for route >>>>> planning, so I’m sure it’s me that’s the problem. >>>>> >>>>> Meanwhile, everyone in my bike club has a bike computer. The club >>>>> plans routes on Ride with GPS. And at the ride start they say things like >>>>> “Does everyone have the route?” I paid for the Ride with GPS membership >>>>> so >>>>> I could have the route on my phone, but it drains the phone. So I never >>>>> use >>>>> it. Thus, I never “have the route.” >>>>> >>>>> This mattered less in the club because SOMEONE always has the route, >>>>> but when I set off on my tour with my son, we will be in charge of >>>>> navigation. It might be nice to have turn-by-turn without running down >>>>> our >>>>> phone batteries. >>>>> >>>>> I don’t know. I really liked just having my iPhone on my bars, but >>>>> maybe with the amount of miles I ride, I should reconsider. 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