On Sunday, July 27, 2025 at 2:52:54 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

IMO, why bother with indexing when modern derailleurs, chains, and cogs 
shift so, so wonderfully, precisely, quickly in friction. 


My favorite 4 shifting systems are, in no particular order:
  Shimano 9-speed indexed bar-ends with any compatible rear derailer
  SRAM Force 22 (including brifters)
  SRAM Red 10-speed with Simplex retrofriction bar-end shifters
  Campagnolo Daytona 9-speed (including brifters)

So, I like indexed and friction and use both quite happily. For me, 
handlebar-mounted shifters always seem more easy to use than downtube. For 
any extended event where I'd be concerned about system resilience, I'd go 
with Shimano 9-speed bar-ends because they have a fabulous friction mode. 
Any ride where fatigue is a factor, snappy indexed shifting rises in 
utility for me.

Maybe the Campy group belongs at the bottom of the list, in terms of 
shifting performance, but I really like the shape of the brake levers. 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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