I’ve done many seasons on winter riding in DC/Virgina, a region that infamously over salts. Never had issues with bad corrosion—with that being said I always do a fresh water wash after. Cables, chains etc will deteriorate but honestly it’s pretty damn humid in the summer too so **shrug**
On Sat, Dec 6, 2025 at 3:50 PM Ben Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh, I meant to add that if I was building up a current Riv frame to be a > drop-bar winter tourer, it'd hands down be an Atlantis, no question. And > then making a Clem work with drops would be a distance second. > > On Saturday, December 6, 2025 at 12:25:46 PM UTC-8 Ben Miller wrote: > >> "I would like a bike for winter / wet weather / touring" >> >> Not sure exactly what you mean by "winter", but if you are talking snow >> at all, here is my take. To me, that is the perfect use case for disc >> brakes. Not only will they stop better with snow-n-ice-covered rims, but >> also make your rims last longer in the wet & dirty conditions by not using >> them as braking surfaces. >> >> Personally, I live in SF, so I don't experience wintery conditions. But I >> do have a bike I take up to the snow. It's a Crust Scapegoat setup with >> Towelrack drops and an internally geared Rolhoff and 27.5x3" tires . >> (Attached is an older photo of it in the snow, while I was experimenting >> with Crazy bars and 4" tires). It is super fun to ride all year round, and >> with wider tires I don't feel I even need studded tires. A higher than >> normal BB also helps in snowy conditions. I think the new Crust Derecho >> would also make a great frame for a winter bike: with clearance for >> 29x2.5", putting some 45NRTH Kahva 29x2.25" studded tires would still offer >> great clearance for excess snow buildup and it has a high BB too. Both >> frames can be setup as drop-bar rigid MTB's. >> >> But if you are keen on sticking with rim brakes, I'd definitely recommend >> *not* going with mini-V brakes. Just not enough clearance for them, >> especially with fenders. Get regular V-brakes and either proper long-pull >> drop levers or just run them with short-pull. Or run cantis. I have Paul >> Moto-lites I am using with Tektro RL340 levers and they work perfectly and >> have plenty of clearance for a 2.25" tire. Conversely, I put Paul >> Mini-motos on my wife's Platy and they *barely* clear 45mm slicks. No >> way you are getting 45mm studded ties in there, let alone fenders. >> >> Either way, I definitely do not think a winter bike *needs* to be a >> beater (though a vintage MTB conversion would be great too!) I fully >> support the idea of a nice, new frame being purposefully built up as a >> winter tourer. >> >> Ben in a very non-wintery SF >> >> [image: PXL_20210213_233037098.jpg] >> On Saturday, December 6, 2025 at 8:33:55 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote: >> >>> Someone please start a thread about Rivendell-esque winter beaters, with >>> lots of photos. >>> >>> It has been 10 years since I owned a real beater, since I work at home >>> and have good relations with the local grocery stores I use that let me >>> wheel my custom errand bike inside for shopping, but I have fond memories >>> of many — from severely demoted 1992 XO-1 to an even more severely demoted >>> and fix-ified 1995 Riv Road custom, thru paleolithic long-stayed, flexy >>> (Cadillac!) Raleigh Technium fixed gear to various early ‘90s drop-bar >>> conversion mountain bikes to a Dahon Hon Solo folding fixed gear, not >>> including many other 3 speeds and mixtes and Collegiates that didn’t stay >>> long. >>> >>> +1 IMO for fixed or single speed, or IGH. We don’t get much rideable >>> snow here in ABQ, NM, but recall riding in ~4” of wet snow on my Matthews >>> “road bike for dirt” and having snow so pack up the cassette that the chain >>> wouldn’t track properly on the cogs. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2025 at 8:41 PM Ian A <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm going to throw in a vote for an 80's mtb. I ride my with 2.15" >>>> studded 26" tires under fenders and single speed. Currently with flat bars, >>>> but ride it for years with drops. I kind of like of like it with the flat >>>> bars for winter riding and it actually does service as a lock up around >>>> town bike in the summer running Big Apple tires (2"). >>>> >>>> Pros are cheap, fun to ride, love the single speed winter maintenance >>>> and perfect for grocery runs. My bike is a late 80's Rock Mountain "fully >>>> rigid" that has gone quality in its bones. >>>> >>>> IanA Kitimat BC >>>> On Friday, December 5, 2025 at 6:58:47 PM UTC-8 Jay wrote: >>>> >>>>> I like my Roadini a lot. I would like a bike for winter / wet weather >>>>> / touring that is as close to the Roadini from a fit perspective, with >>>>> drop >>>>> bars, but with a bit more clearance so I can run fenders nearly full time, >>>>> with perhaps a 38-45 studded tire in winter, and something in that range >>>>> the rest of the year. The new Hillborne looks good. Not sure what works >>>>> best with fenders in terms of mini-v (for drop bars), canti's or maybe >>>>> something else. Goals with the brakes would be: short pull for use with >>>>> levers like Tektro RRL Ergo, clearance for fenders and as big of a tire as >>>>> I can fit, and ease of adjustment. I wouldn't be removing the wheels >>>>> often, mainly when switching tires for winter vs. rest of the year, and >>>>> seldomly rest of the year. >>>>> >>>>> Any other bike options? Has to be for drop bars (for example, >>>>> Appaloosa too long of a top tube to use with drop bars; for me at least, >>>>> as >>>>> I don't like a long reach). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3f1a0c5f-37f7-4de2-86a6-0e8d201367edn%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3f1a0c5f-37f7-4de2-86a6-0e8d201367edn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >>> services >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>> >>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>> >>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/24c98012-5762-4599-a6ff-d0e513915bfen%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/24c98012-5762-4599-a6ff-d0e513915bfen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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