DTL, yes, going from Albatross, which I've had for years, to Orthos has 
been overall positive.  As long as you get the stem length and grip angle 
right, it's a great set up!

On Monday, December 8, 2025 at 2:40:53 PM UTC-7 DTL wrote:

> Hoch, those Ortho Bars look so wide and luxurious from that riding POV!
>
> On Monday, December 8, 2025 at 11:25:28 PM UTC+11 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> Very nice!  I also have a Camper LF and cut a piece of thick plastic 
>> (from some packaging) the size of the bag's floor and that gives it a 
>> little more structure.  It's pretty amazing how much you can fit into the 
>> camper.
>>
>> On Monday, December 8, 2025 at 1:25:55 AM UTC-5 Hoch in UT wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_0066.jpeg]
>>> [image: IMG_0062.jpeg][image: IMG_0064.jpeg][image: IMG_0063.jpeg][image: 
>>> IMG_0065.jpeg]
>>> Crispy cool Sunday morning ride. Recently purchased a Carradice Camper 
>>> LF but doesn’t really fit the bagman support. I need to get a small rack to 
>>> keep the bag off of the tire. 
>>> On Saturday, December 6, 2025 at 7:05:29 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Landing squarely between the last two photos weather-wise, today was 
>>>> around 40F and drizzling. I liked this view - the path most take vs the 
>>>> path I took. 
>>>>
>>>> [image: PXL_20251206_212554735.jpg]
>>>>
>>>

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