That is a very nice Ram indeed. I owned a 58 of the same edition. I think
that I'd have Shannon's view if I were in your position. Won't the Ram take
true 38s? My 58 took true 32s with fenders, tho' the gap between tire and
fender was less than ideal. It was a darned nice bike. Tho' have to confess
that I did sell mine on for overlap reasons; but then OTOH, those it
overlapped with were lighter tubed road bikes with even more tire clearance.

OTOH again, the Roadini gets universal praise. OTOH yet again, I thought I
was not sensitive to tubing gauge and wall thickness until I replaced an OS
2003 Riv road custom with a normal gauge thinner wall 531 clone; yes, a
difference.

On Sun, Feb 15, 2026 at 11:00 PM Shannon Menkveld <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd not be at all surprised if even the Roadini has thicker tubing than
> your Rambouillet. If that's true, the Roadini will not only be heavier, but
> noticably stiffer. If you're sensitive to a stiff bike, I can see you
> preferring one or the other on that basis alone. (I dislike stiff frames.
> Others prefer them. Most don't care.)
>
> Just a thought.
>
> --Shannon
>
> *Also, that's a stunning bike. I'd have to actively hate it before I'd
> sell something that pretty.
> On Tuesday, February 10, 2026 at 7:17:28 PM UTC-8 Arvi wrote:
>
>> Hello. I'm tentatively considering whether my new to me Rambouillet
>> (blue, size 58) has a long term home in my stable. It's a great bike, but I
>> already have a perfect-for-me 700x30 road bike and a 650x42 randonneur, and
>> the Ram overlaps with these.
>>
>> A 54 lugged roadini would fit me and be a little more different, with
>> bigger tires and slacker angles. Let me know if a trade (with $ to balance
>> as needed) interests anyone. I'm in Oakland, CA.
>>
>> (I would not be interested in other, stouter-tubed Riv models or non
>> Rivs, thanks!)[image: IMG_7716.jpeg]
>> [image: IMG_8784.jpeg]
>>
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