5' 11 here on 56cm 26" Toyo. With 2.1 tires standover is ~33". Coincidentally, I have a 58cm 700c Toyo as well (went thru this same quandary, lol) and can say that standover is iffy for me with anything bigger than a 42c tire. May move the 58cm frameset along at some point... --Nick
On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 2:09 AM Pat McCullar <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a 56cm Toyo Atlantis and a 58cm custom road bike (like a > Rambouillet or Long-Low), and the fit is almost exactly the same on both > bikes. If I'm wearing shoes, then I will clear the top tube, but only > just. That is with 26x1.75"/42mm Paselas on the Atlantis and 700x32mm > Gravel Kings on the road bike. My PBH is 85. > > I have never ridden or straddled a 58cm Toyo Atlantis, but I seem to > recall that some old geometry chart listed the minimum PBH as 84. > > On Tuesday, February 17, 2026 at 5:42:58 PM UTC-8 Bill Fulford wrote: > >> I have both, a 58 Atlantis and a 54 Hunqapillar. My pbh is 87. I can >> stand over the Atlantis but the bar is right at the crotch. The >> Hunqapillar has more stand over clearance and I’m more comfortable riding >> it off road. >> >> On Tuesday, February 17, 2026 at 7:27:43 PM UTC-5 Jeffrey S wrote: >> >>> Thank you all! Will look into testing out an older 56cm 26" Atlantis. >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 17, 2026 at 9:57:02 AM UTC-8 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Brian's real world advice is definitely a better reference point than >>>> bike insights' numbers alone! >>>> >>>> That being said, If a 56cm 650b Atlantis is interesting you can email >>>> me off list if you'd like to trade for that 54cm Hunqapillar, Jeffrey! >>>> >>>> - Drew >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, February 17, 2026 at 12:29:06 PM UTC-5 Brian Turner wrote: >>>> >>>>> I forgot to mention, my friend who has a 58cm Toyo (he's a group >>>>> member here as well) also rides a 54cm Hunq. >>>>> >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 17, 2026 at 12:25:43 PM UTC-5 Brian Turner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> With your PBH, you could very likely comfortably ride a 58cm Toyo >>>>>> Atlantis with 700 wheels. The 56cm size with 650b would likely work for >>>>>> you >>>>>> too, but those were produced for such a short period, they are quite hard >>>>>> to come by (I tried for 2-3 years to find one myself to no avail). My PBH >>>>>> is 83, and while I can technically ride a 58cm Toyo, the standover is >>>>>> just >>>>>> a tad high for me to be comfortable on it. I know from experience >>>>>> because I >>>>>> have a couple of friends who are a couple inches taller than me who own >>>>>> 58s, and I have taken them for test rides. For reference, I am 5' 8", and >>>>>> my friends who own 58cm Toyos are both around 5' 10" tall. >>>>>> >>>>>> Brian >>>>>> Lexington KY >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, February 17, 2026 at 12:01:44 PM UTC-5 Drew Fitchette >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Jeffrey, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the jump happened from the 2017 to 2018 model, but I think >>>>>>> they went from 26" wheels to 650b's in that size range then. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've got a 56cm from 2018 and it's 650bs with an 835 listed stand >>>>>>> over. I think it's the first frame with a longer Chainstay(525mm). Find >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Geo comparisons here >>>>>>> <https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5d23cd33b263250017b258c9,5ad1288a9127aa0014fa1d9b,> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, here's Grants Blahg mention on the "new" geometry. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: 2018 Atlantis Blahg .jpeg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 17, 2026 at 11:41:42 AM UTC-5 Jeffrey S wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know this has been talked about before, but I can never seem to >>>>>>>> find the details I am looking for when searching. I ride a 54 >>>>>>>> Hunqapillar. >>>>>>>> If I were to look for a Toyo Atlantis, or other shorter wheelbase >>>>>>>> Atlantis >>>>>>>> before they got stretched, what year/era/size would be a similar fit >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> also has 700c wheels? Or do i need to search for a 650b? My PBH is a >>>>>>>> 85-86. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you! Jeffrey >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/437c5ea9-55c3-46d7-9510-d2e5038f833bn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/437c5ea9-55c3-46d7-9510-d2e5038f833bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CA%2Bpm_GpJKmEi4pCuCn-UJYmu9zLZt5bDttM18ADWz9jhmZMMBw%40mail.gmail.com.
