Jumping in here to say that I have veloce 9 speed levers shifting a 7 speed s-ride 13-34 cassette via a shimano xtr m-900 rear derailleur. I couldn't get it to work without an alternative cable clamping, but the cable anchor washer on the xtr mech didn't have the necessary `tab.' I found a washer with a `claw' and routed the cable between the two notches, giving me just enough reduced cable pull for the indexing to work...
[image: clamping.jpeg] Sort of. When I set the indexing so that the last two clicks in the pull are dummy gears, things didn't feel right in my middle gear, especially when in my smaller ring up front. I reduced the cable tension enough so that the first and last clicks are now the dummies, and things seem to be working quite well. We'll see if it continues to work smoothly after a couple of rides. I don't know if anyone else has run into this issue, namely that the cable pull is not consistent across the range. Henry Wildeberry had a similar issue <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGaIBUDbVKc>, and fixed it by filing down the internal cable barrel. Hopefully I won't have to go that far! On Monday, July 21, 2025 at 8:40:08 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > Thanks, Nick, Owen and Mojo, great idea about looking for Campy 11s as > well. I should have mentioned that Campy shifters will work with Shimano > "minus 2 gears" without modifications. I belieeeeve (?) that Campy 9 will > shift Shimano 7 as well? > > @Nick S. Good golly, what an insane sets of sheets. Really pushing the > limits of Google Sheets. A pleasure to look at, some great coded > information here, mesmerizing gradients. Fun to browse. I wonder if I'd > ever get technical enough to sort and apply any of this data. > > On Monday, July 21, 2025 at 6:48:07 PM UTC-4 Oliver Moss wrote: > >> Thanks Nick, that's a hell of a spreadsheet. >> >> >> On Monday, July 21, 2025 at 12:00:39 PM UTC-4 Nick Shoemaker wrote: >> >>> Here's an incredibly extensive spreadsheet that I came across at some >>> point when researching possible "Campy x _______" combos; it includes cable >>> pull & derailleur ratio for just about everything out there >>> ("compatibility" tab): >>> >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16C3Rz6qmzmurSNd-L3IeMSFukkBFV6D1DRbfS59EDrE/edit?gid=965182040#gid=965182040 >>> >>> Like others, I ran Campy 10 shifters, with Shimano 8/9 derailleurs and >>> Shimano 8 cassettes for many years without issue. Campy 11 shifters are >>> probably fine, but that was the point when they got rid of some of what >>> made Campy shifters "special" in the first place (new hood shape & lever >>> design; no longer rebuildable part-by-part like the old ergos; no more >>> "window" on the metal shift levers...). There are recent anecdotal reports >>> that Campy 9s Shifters + a Shimano 11s Road derailleur (or Tiagra 10s >>> derailleur) + Shimano 9s cogs "will work". I haven't tested that combo yet >>> myself, but plan to at some point in the future - maybe worth trying if you >>> happen upon a good deal on some 9s Ergo levers? >>> >>> On Monday, July 21, 2025 at 9:02:09 AM UTC-4 Oliver Moss wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Nick, >>>> >>>> I spent some time yesterday looking into the change Campy made in 2015 >>>> to their cable pull but couldn't find much that was any help. Do you know >>>> if they also changed the 10 speed cable pull as well, or just the 11? >>>> >>>> Thanks for any help. >>>> >>>> ~Oliver >>>> >>>> On Monday, July 21, 2025 at 2:52:18 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote: >>>> >>>>> I found that the Chris Juden mix-and-match page is still available: >>>>> https://www.cyclinguk.org/cyclists-library/components/transmission-gears/derailleur-gears/shimergo >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> Note, however, that the information on that page pre-dates >>>>> Campagnolo's change to the cable pull of their 11s shifters in 2015, and >>>>> I >>>>> don't know if a post-2015 Campagnolo 11s shifter will mate successfully >>>>> with Shimano 9s derailleur and cassette. >>>>> >>>>> Nick Payne >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/168b8de7-931c-4c34-b87f-6c139767e964n%40googlegroups.com.
