John - I definitely think their suggestion for stem lengths on the 
site/newsletter is accurate. My atlantis is a 2018 56cm with shorter reach 
than the current frames. If I had a newer 55cm I’d probably run a shorter 
one(80-90mm). 

I also have a long torso, so this puts me in a nice slightly leaned forward 
position. If I moved these to my 56cm Susie I’d go with an 80mm. 
On Saturday, March 7, 2026 at 2:30:57 AM UTC-5 johnny wrote:

> Nice! How do you like the 12cm stem? Do you think shorter would be better? 
>
> John 
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2026 at 10:17 AM Drew Fitchette <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>> Got my Bar68 on my Atlantis yesterday, and took it out for a quick ride 
>> to make some minor adjustments. I really enjoy them so far, it's nice as 
>> this iteration of the Atlantis has a shorter top tube and it gets me 
>> leaning a little further forward. I'm running with a 120mm stem in this 
>> picture. Excuse the excess cable lengths as these were measured for Moth 
>> bars I had before. 
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_0487.jpg][image: IMG_0485.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_0484.jpg]
>> On Wednesday, March 4, 2026 at 6:15:59 PM UTC-5 Drew Fitchette wrote:
>>
>>> I’d add to this list the Moth bar for those who like them wide!
>>> Osprey: 40° sweep, 710mm width, 12mm rise
>>> Jones: 45° sweep, 710mm width, 13mm rise
>>> Bar68: 50° sweep, 680mm width, 35mm rise
>>> KT Bar 39º sweep, 720mm width, 40mm rise
>>> Granola bar: 60º sweep, 650mm width, 30mm rise 
>>> Moth Bar: 60º sweep, 745mm width, 50mm rise
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 4, 2026 at 4:25:26 PM UTC-5 Ben R wrote:
>>>
>>>> People LOVE the KT bar. I have 3 friends with them and one has 2 sets 
>>>> on two different bikes. 
>>>> The semi looking “BMX” style bar bothers me for some reason. I think I 
>>>> don’t like how the rise looks on them?
>>>>
>>>> Another bar that was brought to my attention was the sims works JJJ 
>>>> bar. 
>>>>
>>>> https://www.sim.works/products/sycip-designs-x-simworks-jjj-bar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doug - If I sell them I’ll keep you in mind. I’m sure I’ll list it here 
>>>> but I wanna give them a ride for a bit. I’m enjoying them.  I do think 
>>>> having to run shims because my stem is a 31.8 bothers me but not enough to 
>>>> fully ditch them already. 
>>>>
>>>> Ben R
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2026 at 1:20 PM Doug H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I will buy your Bar68 if you don't like it. 
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 4, 2026 at 4:08:38 PM UTC-5 [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> These bars look great! They are also very close to the Velo Orange 
>>>>>> Granola bar, which I've always loved, and should be added to the list:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Osprey: 40° sweep, 710mm width, 12mm rise
>>>>>> Jones: 45° sweep, 710mm width, 13mm rise
>>>>>> Bar68: 50° sweep, 680mm width, 35mm rise
>>>>>> KT Bar 39º sweep, 720mm width, 40mm rise
>>>>>> VO Granola bar: 60º sweep, 650mm width, 30mm rise 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2026, 12:03 am Drew Fitchette, <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> Wills e-mail listed it at 50 degree sweep!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Osprey: 40° sweep, 710mm width, 12mm rise
>>>>>>> Jones: 45° sweep, 710mm width, 13mm rise
>>>>>>> Bar68: 50° sweep, 680mm width, 35mm rise
>>>>>>> KT Bar 39º sweep, 720mm width, 40mm rise
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Drew
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2026 at 6:41 PM Bill Shaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adding the Crumbworks KT bar as it's very similar and hard to locate: 
>>>>>>>> https://www.magiccomponents.work/product-page/nitto-x-crumbworks-kt-bar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Osprey: 40° sweep, 710mm width, 12mm rise
>>>>>>>> Jones: 45° sweep, 710mm width, 13mm rise
>>>>>>>> Bar68: __° sweep, 680mm width, 35mm rise
>>>>>>>> KT Bar 39º sweep, 720mm width, 40mm rise 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Bill 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2026 at 3:47 PM Nick Shoemaker <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those look great! I've been riding the *seemingly-very-similar**  
>>>>>>>>> Soma Osprey on my Clem for about 3 years now - I'm totally sold on 
>>>>>>>>> these 
>>>>>>>>> sorts of Jones-esque semi-swept bars for bikes that spend a 
>>>>>>>>> significant 
>>>>>>>>> amount of time on singletrack. (I ditched the Ergons since this 
>>>>>>>>> picture was 
>>>>>>>>> taken and replaced them with ESIs that have been better in every way; 
>>>>>>>>> stem 
>>>>>>>>> is an 80mm Dirt Drop)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: soma_osprey_bar.jpg]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *I haven't found the sweep for Bar68 posted publicly yet - would 
>>>>>>>>> be curious to know how it compares!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Specs:
>>>>>>>>> Osprey: 40° sweep, 710mm width, 12mm rise
>>>>>>>>> Jones: 45° sweep, 710mm width, 13mm rise
>>>>>>>>> Bar68: __° sweep, 680mm width, 35mm rise
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 1, 2026 at 11:27:35 PM UTC-5 [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Last year around the spring I took a pair of Albatros bars and 
>>>>>>>>>> bent them out.  the shape ended up being pretty sweet, but I ended 
>>>>>>>>>> up 
>>>>>>>>>> dimpling the bars and didn't feel safe to use them.
>>>>>>>>>> I was talking to James about the shape and he mentioned to me how 
>>>>>>>>>> they had a "new bar" in the works.
>>>>>>>>>> fast forward a few months and he had a pair on his platty.  I got 
>>>>>>>>>> to ride it around and it felt good but didn't really catch my 
>>>>>>>>>> attention as 
>>>>>>>>>> Im into wide(r) bars.  I actually rode it like a total of 4X from 
>>>>>>>>>> other 
>>>>>>>>>> times.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> anyways I ended up picking up a pair in last weeks release. 
>>>>>>>>>>  finally got to get them out on a proper ride and not just around 
>>>>>>>>>> the block.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -not a swept back bar but not a flat bar.  the rise feels nice.
>>>>>>>>>> -threw in some 20mm bar extension to get the width I wanted.
>>>>>>>>>> -they feel great. a tad not as big as the crust Juan martins I 
>>>>>>>>>> was running. the extenders turn it from a "bent out albatross" to a 
>>>>>>>>>> "bent 
>>>>>>>>>> out billie bar".
>>>>>>>>>> -the ramps and little extra space in the grip area feels good for 
>>>>>>>>>> climbs.
>>>>>>>>>> -will go back to Ergon grips as the angle of the bar and esi 
>>>>>>>>>> grips didn't get along with my arthritic hands.
>>>>>>>>>> -was skeptical at first and thought I would end up selling them 
>>>>>>>>>> after one ride but 10/10 they will probably stay on for a while...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> surprised it hasn't been brought up in RBW yet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3363.jpeg]
>>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3368.jpeg]
>>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3373.jpeg]
>>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3378.jpeg]
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