Tubeless is great with large volume tires on gravel IMO. That's a good 
upgrade. Spoke count, I don't think you'll notice that weight savings. You 
might notice a loss of durability depending on your weight and riding 
style. And the "ride feel" effect is cumulative. My Toyo Atlantis is still 
a tank even with a very light Hunt wheelset. That bike just hates going 
fast. The "ploddy" feel you describe may be due to the Hillborne frame 
which isn't too different than the Atlantis 2. I have a Fargo with a 
Velocity Blunt/XT wheelset and bigger tires, total weight is about the 
same, but due to more aggressive geometry it is not ploddy at all.

I have 32h Quills and can attest that they are great rims. Pretty much the 
best option for rim brake tubeless high-volume tires. I'm 200# and have 
thoroughly abused mine.

On Wednesday, March 11, 2026 at 4:04:34 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> It may be the very stout frame. I used to scoff at “planing” but then got 
> a geometrical clone of a 2003 custom Riv Road built with narrower gauge, 
> thinner wall tubing (I got the replacement frame because I wanted certain 
> new features, not because of the tubing, but I asked for normal gauge, 
> thinner wall 531 at the same time), and I immediately noticed that it felt 
> “easier to pedal.” Now, no science at all, at all, at all went into my 
> judgment, but I don’t feel that the newer frame is “fighting me” the way I 
> felt over the years that the 2003 frame was slightly “resisting my pedaling.
>
> It has been 15 years since I owned my first-gen Sam, and if that model had 
> had clearances for true 50s and fenders I would have kept it for dirt road 
> riding, but it did not feel “spritely” on pavement, to say the least.
>
> OTOH, “they” have long said said that the biggest change you can make to 
> the feel of your bike is to change the tires ….
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2026 at 9:44 AM Davey Two Shoes <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>> … I’d like the bike to feel quicker and more inspiring with this 
>> wheelset, I've often thought that the "ploddy" feeling my Sam has is down 
>> to the uninspiring wheelset.
>
>

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