I have the b 17 on 5 bikes
Tried the swift for a while & it did not work for me.
Even tho at that point I was at the low end of an aggressive rider.
It may be that the displeasure came to me moving to a more upright position.


Yours sincerely,





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Sent: Monday, March 23, 2026 12:25 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch <[email protected]>
Subject: [RBW] Brooks Swift vs Berthoud Aspin

Hi All!

For years I've been riding with Brooks B17 on multiple bikes and have always 
gotten along pretty well with that saddle comfort wise. About 2 years ago I 
swapped from a B17 to a Berthoud Aspin on my Homer and found the Berthoud to be 
even more comfortable for me, with better support for my sit bones and the 
narrower nose worked better for me.

I have other bikes I'd like to swap to Berthouds, but they are expensive so 
I've also considered the Brooks Swift (not inexpensive but less expensive than 
the Berthoud) which seems to have a similar-ish shape to an Aspin.

Anyone have experience with the Swift, Aspin/Aravis, or both and can share your 
experiences?

Thanks!
Josh
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