I was thinking the same thing- that the Clem was designed around the Bosco/Tosco. However, I think the reach on my Gus is equally long? On it I use a bar with much less backsweep (LekerLeks Albacore). In order for it to work for me I needed my stubby 35mm stem. So I think I could do something similar on the Gus? I was actually talking to Will @ Riv about this same topic. He was wanting to try a less swept back bar with a stubby stem on a Susie.
Sent from my iPhone Yes the Clem's were I think initially designed around using the Bosco bars. I personally am not a fan, and I would argue that a frame intended to use such extremely swept back bars would require too long of a reach to use anything else. Worth keeping in mind for the OP if wanting to downsize to a smaller Clem: if it's a newer model you may actually end up with MORE reach than you currently have. If you need to use an extreme swept back bar like the Bosco, you may as well try it on your current Clem to see if you like it before downsizing to find you need to do the same Regarding Clem’s having too long of a Reach; not if you run Bosco’s. I am of average proportions & am running a 130 stem with Bosco’s! The reach is perfect. The Bullmoose in question has what, 90-100 extension? That combined with not much sweep would be problematic. Sent from my iPhone Hi Joe,
I previously owned a 52cm Clem (which I assume is the size of yours) and also attempted to run bullmoose bars on it when it arrived. I can also see that you have your saddle probably as far forward as you can get it, and IIRC the odd seatpost size makes finding a silver zero setback seatpost nigh impossible. The sad reality of the Clem is that the reach is far too much for each model size. The 2017 52cm model had an effective top tube length of 61cm(!) and amazingly they've only gotten longer. For comparison, my 55cm Crust Lightning Bolt (the only bike I use drops with) has a reach of 370mm. The 52cm Clem has a reach of 412.5mm. The reach on the newest models is 431mm on the 45cm model! I was never even comfortable with Albatross bars on my Clem, and eventually sold it.
Hi all, I'm writing to you from the Roscoe Village neighborhood in Chicago. I'm joining the group to learn more about how others are sizing their rigs. As much as I love the Clem, I’m starting to suspect I might be a better fit for a 50cm (I'm 5'6" with a shorter torso), so I’m looking forward to reading through the archives here regarding PBH and reach. Best regards, Joe
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