Eric, you can get some new Open Pro's in 36h black from Prowheelbuilder. https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/mavic-open-pro-700c-black-rim.html
They also have the latest version of the Open Pro, the UST version. It's notable wider too. https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/mavic-open-pro-ust-msw-700c-black-rim.html Looking at the inside shape of the rim I'd bet it doesn't suffer from too tight fitting rim as there is notably more room inside than a typical tubeless rim. You can get just the rims or have them build a set using their configuration options. They do have R7000 105 hubs if you wanted Shimano hubs. Otherwise many other options. No extra charge for the labor. They have two custom build avenues. I think the TB14 is a better looking box style rim though ! If I didn't care about color and wanted a modern rim design and something wider(21/26) I'd consider the Boyd Rouleur rim. Though you can get a Boyd build Rouleur wheelset (130mm rear) from Boyd website for $450. https://www.boydcycling.com/shop/rouleur-alloy-rim-brake-1305?category=23#attr=1944,808 I emailed and asked them if they have end caps for a 135mm rear and they said no but they can build a set using their disc version of the hub(with the rim brake rim), if the unused disc mounts didn't matter to me. No it doesn't ! I'm pretty sure all the Boyd rims and hubs are made in the US, the rims are for sure. On Saturday, April 4, 2026 at 10:15:57 AM UTC-4 Eric Karnes wrote: > The rims I tend to favor are the OpenPro and the H Plus Son Archetype (I > think(?) even more of a v shape than the A23). If I'm honest, one of the > main reasons is that every tire I've ever experimented with comes on and > off each of those rims really easily. And for a mediocre mechanic like > myself, that's a big deal. I remember having a bear of a time getting tires > on a pair of A23s that I had. > > The Archetype, like many newer rims, are wider and therefore (apparently) > better for larger tires. And they are properly cool looking, especially in > contrast to a lugged frame. That said, I prefer the ride of the OpenPro. > I've always found the v shape of the Archetypes much stiffer and harsher > riding while going over bumps or riding on gravel surfaces. Although, take > that unscientific claim with a grain of salt, as there were other variables > between the bikes I'm contrasting... > > Eric > > On Friday, April 3, 2026 at 9:37:33 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: > >> I used 559 and 571 bsd rims for decades, then started using 622 >> disc-only rims, so I’m far behind in knowledge of 622 rim brake rims. Am I >> right then in thinking that, 30 years ago, perhaps from the ‘80s until >> carbon fiber rims, the Open Pros were a roadie benchmark? I did have a very >> nice second hand pair of Open Pro wheels on my Ram, circa 2012. >> >> How do they compare in real weight (published: OP: 435, VA23 450), >> strength — resistance to going out of true and denting, and ride (more >> supple than …?) to Velocity “V” shaped A23s? The A23 rear is nicely offset >> for the 11 sp cassette. >> >> Personal if academic interest (not going to replace), since the Roadeo >> came with nice Rich Velocity wheels. >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3a8d75a1-8f6c-4214-916c-e94d86b6f8d2n%40googlegroups.com.
