Custom knickers - love it! I just might have to pull out our sewing machine and give it a go.
Thanks, Steve On Sunday, April 5, 2026 at 6:44:22 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > Those are Raphas, no longer made, I gather, that I bought used from > someone onlist. They’re not bad, but not as comfortable or good-looking as > the several pairs I made or had made by cutting down high-quality wool > dress pants. My favorite cycling pants of all time are a pair of light > flannel I Magnin men’s dress pants cut down by a professional tailor with > light nylon wind barrier sewn into front, from waistband to knees, and wear > patch in matching color but more durable fabric sewn into the > saddle-contact area. I’ve made several similar knickers myself by having > the long pants cut and hemmed at about the “plus 8” length and adding > velcro to cinch them just below the knee. > > High-quality wool dress pants, or at least the dress pants that I wear, > work very well indeed, not only for durable and breathable but warm and > temperature-flexible fabric, but because they are cut high in the waist and > cover you securely in back when you are bent over in the hooks. Perhaps > it’s just me, but I have a long narrow torso,* and most off-shelf cycling > pants are cut far too low in the waist, which is very annoying. To their > credit, the Raphas are cut properly, and come up high enough to feel > comfortable and avoid pants-to-jersey-gaps in the rear. > > The Raphas came with a pad sewn inside the pants; a thin pad, but still a > pad. They felt uncomfortable: binding, bunching, chafing. This over tight > bamboo fabric (“rayon”) boxer briefs. I removed the pad and now they are > fine. Pads in cycling shorts be damned! Especially the thick, diaper-like > pads in the lycra shorts I heartily disliked and abandoned over 20 years > ago. For the 52 mile ride I wore trim-fitting IOMerino boxer briefs. > > I heartily recommend “plus 8” style knickers for cycling. And you can get > extravagantly stylish: Fausto Coppi, brother, and friends on a winter > training ride. How much nicer than Pas Normal! > > Those must be plus 16s. > > [image: image.png] > > * I was sitting on a hard metal bench this late morning co-teaching church > school with our deacon, a young 40-something of pure Anglo background who > when standing is a good 3” taller than I. When sitting I am 3” taller than > he. He has a normal torso and I have normal legs, but my proportions are > Asian on an Anglo scale. (5’11”). And rather thin. > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2026 at 4:19 PM Steve <[email protected]> wrote: > >> “do these knickers make me look fat?” >> >> Knickers are classic, surprisingly comfortable and downright kool. I >> like 'em. >> Tell about the pair your wearing in the pic, if you' please. >> >> >> On Sunday, April 5, 2026 at 4:14:26 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: >> >>> I’ve got my mouth stuffed with 1/2 of an energy bar, which account for >>> the chipmunk cheeks. >>> >>> Patrick “do these knickers make me look fat?” Moore >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2026 at 10:11 AM Christopher Young <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Here's another shot at one of our stops. Tyler is taking the picture so >>>> not visible. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> On Saturday, April 4, 2026 at 6:11:33 PM UTC-6 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It looks like the surface of the moon out there…if the moon had >>>>> backhoes. >>>>> ctj >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f75e6eb3-3c95-40e5-af72-f43aa3db3b66n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f75e6eb3-3c95-40e5-af72-f43aa3db3b66n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >>> services >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>> >>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>> >>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fd625aaf-4ddf-4e14-971a-394094292746n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fd625aaf-4ddf-4e14-971a-394094292746n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing > services > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* > > *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* > > *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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