I've got orthos up on the site, would gladly add Davos (Nitto) Bullmoose B907 if I could get a large high quality birdseye photo of one ;)
On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 11:49 AM Eric Kidwell <[email protected]> wrote: > I love the overlay comparison. I’d love to see the ortho and the Davos > bull nose added. > I just placed an order for my Appa in green/olive. > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 15, 2026, at 2:30 PM, CW Springer <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have found this post really helpful for bar geometry. > > https://bikepacking.com/index/comfort-mtb-handlebars/ > > On Wednesday, April 15, 2026 at 10:59:37 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > >> @ ahboyd, how did you make that diagram? Those are several of the bars I >> had wanted to compare, but WhatBars no got'em -- useful! >> >> Any word on when the next run of Bar68s might be? >> >> On Sunday, March 22, 2026 at 9:36:23 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> I made a curve profile comparison of some 40-45*º* sweep back >>> handlebars. Currently, I have VO Klunker bar on my A. Homer Hilsen and I >>> like it so much. It felt really good, stable and made the ride a lot more >>> fun. So, I'm considering Bar68 as well because it have the same >>> dimensions. But being in Asia, I guess I will have to wait and cross my >>> fingers hope that Blue Lug will have a secret batch from Nitto for sale. >>> >>> [image: Screenshot 2026-03-23 at 09.17.27.png] >>> [image: Screenshot 2026-03-23 at 09.34.18.png] >>> >>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2026 at 7:59:03 AM UTC+8 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I forgot to mention that I built a simple visualizer that allows me to >>>> plug in various bars and see what my reach will be. I have pretty severe >>>> neck issues and am working on a new build that will likely either have >>>> another set of custom bars or stock bars that I'll modify by cutting down a >>>> bit. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 5:23 PM David Ross <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> [image: IMG_4018.jpg] >>>>> This is my current set-up. The bars are custom Doom titanium that are >>>>> basically a blown up version of a Rivendell Albatross. They measure >>>>> approximately 700mm in width. I have another Doom bar that is steel and is >>>>> basically the same geometry as a Crust Ortho but with tighter bends and >>>>> more useable grip area. They're heavy, but they are unbelievably >>>>> comfortable. As an aside, I'm still running a fully steerer as I expect to >>>>> have to raise my bars as I age. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 5:56 PM Richard Rose <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That’s interesting. I am decidedly on the small end of getting a >>>>>> large (57?) Gus to work but work it does. My Boxcar is of the 35mm >>>>>> variety. >>>>>> I love the bar/stem combo. Additionally, I despise shims. But I had to >>>>>> resort to using them on my old 26” MTB converted to a rigid single speed. >>>>>> They have not slipped on me yet but they do worry me. I like to see a pic >>>>>> of the doom equipped Gus. >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 16, 2026, at 4:40 PM, David Ross <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm running custom Doom ti bars on my Gus and I couldn't be happier. >>>>>> I'm also running a 50mm BMX stem, although I've also run a Paul Boxcar >>>>>> on a >>>>>> previous pair of 22.2 bars. I would note that, for anyone doing serious >>>>>> off-road riding, running a stem with shims is far from optimal. No matter >>>>>> what you do, you'll never get the bars as secure as a bar will be with an >>>>>> appropriate stem clamp diameter. Also, the BMX stems have a huge amount >>>>>> of >>>>>> clamping surface, which I believe also helps prevent bar spin. The only >>>>>> reason I can probably get away with such a short stem is that I'm at the >>>>>> lower size for someone riding a 57cm Gus. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 2:44 PM Tom Powell Davies < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks like here is another option, for people who like the >>>>>>> bar68/Granola bar shape, but want to go wider!: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://global.bluelug.com/wilde-buckaroo-bar-nickel.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2026, 1:50 pm Richard Rose, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> LOTS of good stuff regarding the “68” & similar handlebars. All of >>>>>>>> the usual suspects listed with one BIG omission IMHO. The “Albacore” >>>>>>>> handlebar commissioned by Hope Cyclery from Philly based LekerLeks. I >>>>>>>> recently visited Keystone Bikes in Philly & they have several of his >>>>>>>> bars >>>>>>>> in stock/on display. His shop is close to Keystone - so MUSA! >>>>>>>> Albacore is 785 wide with 50 degree sweep & about 20 rise. >>>>>>>> 22.2clamp size which is part of the secret sauce according to me. Two >>>>>>>> advantages; the bar has a subtle flex & it works best with a 22.2 stem >>>>>>>> though it comes with shims to go to 31.8. But 22.2 gives one all the >>>>>>>> excuse >>>>>>>> needed to get a Paul Boxcar stem. No brainer. >>>>>>>> This bar/stem defines my Gus. Thus equipped the Gus is a “Mountain >>>>>>>> Bike”. None of this hillibike nonsense.:)) The beautiful forward bend >>>>>>>> transitioning to the backsweep is very useful & comfy & works so good >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> the stubby stem. I know the bar is WIDE! It’s perfect for singletrack. >>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>> said he makes the “Albalite” which of course is narrower. He also makes >>>>>>>> whatever you want. They are not heat treated aluminum so not >>>>>>>> lightweight. >>>>>>>> But he is now making them in titanium & selling those for just $222.00 >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>> insane for Ti! >>>>>>>> [image: image0.jpeg] >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2026, at 7:44 AM, Drew Fitchette <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John - I definitely think their suggestion for stem lengths on the >>>>>>>> site/newsletter is accurate. My atlantis is a 2018 56cm with shorter >>>>>>>> reach >>>>>>>> than the current frames. If I had a newer 55cm I’d probably run a >>>>>>>> shorter >>>>>>>> one(80-90mm). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also have a long torso, so this puts me in a nice slightly leaned >>>>>>>> forward position. If I moved these to my 56cm Susie I’d go with an >>>>>>>> 80mm. >>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 7, 2026 at 2:30:57 AM UTC-5 johnny wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nice! How do you like the 12cm stem? Do you think shorter would be >>>>>>>>> better? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2026 at 10:17 AM Drew Fitchette < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Got my Bar68 on my Atlantis yesterday, and took it out for a >>>>>>>>>> quick ride to make some minor adjustments. I really enjoy them so >>>>>>>>>> far, it's >>>>>>>>>> nice as this iteration of the Atlantis has a shorter top tube and it >>>>>>>>>> gets >>>>>>>>>> me leaning a little further forward. I'm running with a 120mm stem >>>>>>>>>> in this >>>>>>>>>> picture. Excuse the excess cable lengths as these were measured for >>>>>>>>>> Moth >>>>>>>>>> bars I had before. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_0487.jpg][image: IMG_0485.jpg] >>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_0484.jpg] >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 4, 2026 at 6:15:59 PM UTC-5 Drew Fitchette >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I’d add to this list the Moth bar for those who like them wide! >>>>>>>>>>> Osprey: 40° sweep, 710mm width, 12mm rise >>>>>>>>>>> Jones: 45° sweep, 710mm width, 13mm rise >>>>>>>>>>> Bar68: 50° sweep, 680mm width, 35mm rise >>>>>>>>>>> KT Bar 39º sweep, 720mm width, 40mm rise >>>>>>>>>>> Granola bar: 60º sweep, 650mm width, 30mm rise >>>>>>>>>>> Moth Bar: 60º sweep, 745mm width, 50mm rise >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 4, 2026 at 4:25:26 PM UTC-5 Ben R wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> People LOVE the KT bar. I have 3 friends with them and one has >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 sets on two different bikes. >>>>>>>>>>>> The semi looking “BMX” style bar bothers me for some reason. I >>>>>>>>>>>> think I don’t like how the rise looks on them? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Another bar that was brought to my attention was the sims works >>>>>>>>>>>> JJJ bar. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.sim.works/products/sycip-designs-x-simworks-jjj-bar >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Doug - If I sell them I’ll keep you in mind. I’m sure I’ll list >>>>>>>>>>>> it here but I wanna give them a ride for a bit. I’m enjoying them. >>>>>>>>>>>> I do >>>>>>>>>>>> think having to run shims because my stem is a 31.8 bothers me but >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> enough to fully ditch them already. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ben R >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2026 at 1:20 PM Doug H. <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will buy your Bar68 if you don't like it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 4, 2026 at 4:08:38 PM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> These bars look great! They are also very close to the Velo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orange Granola bar, which I've always loved, and should be added >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> list: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Osprey: 40° sweep, 710mm width, 12mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jones: 45° sweep, 710mm width, 13mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bar68: 50° sweep, 680mm width, 35mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>> KT Bar 39º sweep, 720mm width, 40mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VO Granola bar: 60º sweep, 650mm width, 30mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2026, 12:03 am Drew Fitchette, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wills e-mail listed it at 50 degree sweep! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Osprey: 40° sweep, 710mm width, 12mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jones: 45° sweep, 710mm width, 13mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bar68: 50° sweep, 680mm width, 35mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KT Bar 39º sweep, 720mm width, 40mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Drew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2026 at 6:41 PM Bill Shaw <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding the Crumbworks KT bar as it's very similar and hard to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locate: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.magiccomponents.work/product-page/nitto-x-crumbworks-kt-bar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Osprey: 40° sweep, 710mm width, 12mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jones: 45° sweep, 710mm width, 13mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bar68: __° sweep, 680mm width, 35mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KT Bar 39º sweep, 720mm width, 40mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2026 at 3:47 PM Nick Shoemaker < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those look great! I've been riding the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *seemingly-very-similar** Soma Osprey on my Clem for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 3 years now - I'm totally sold on these sorts of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jones-esque >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> semi-swept bars for bikes that spend a significant amount of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> singletrack. (I ditched the Ergons since this picture was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replaced them with ESIs that have been better in every way; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stem is an 80mm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dirt Drop) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: soma_osprey_bar.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *I haven't found the sweep for Bar68 posted publicly yet - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be curious to know how it compares! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specs: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Osprey: 40° sweep, 710mm width, 12mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jones: 45° sweep, 710mm width, 13mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bar68: __° sweep, 680mm width, 35mm rise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 1, 2026 at 11:27:35 PM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last year around the spring I took a pair of Albatros >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bars and bent them out. the shape ended up being pretty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sweet, but I ended >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up dimpling the bars and didn't feel safe to use them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was talking to James about the shape and he mentioned >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to me how they had a "new bar" in the works. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fast forward a few months and he had a pair on his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platty. I got to ride it around and it felt good but didn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really catch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my attention as Im into wide(r) bars. I actually rode it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like a total of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4X from other times. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyways I ended up picking up a pair in last weeks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release. finally got to get them out on a proper ride and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not just around >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the block. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -not a swept back bar but not a flat bar. the rise feels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -threw in some 20mm bar extension to get the width I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -they feel great. a tad not as big as the crust Juan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> martins I was running. the extenders turn it from a "bent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out albatross" to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a "bent out billie bar". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -the ramps and little extra space in the grip area feels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good for climbs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -will go back to Ergon grips as the angle of the bar and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esi grips didn't get along with my arthritic hands. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -was skeptical at first and thought I would end up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selling them after one ride but 10/10 they will probably >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stay on for a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surprised it hasn't been brought up in RBW yet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3363.jpeg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3368.jpeg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3373.jpeg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3378.jpeg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 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