If cycling is your psssion, it doesn't matter how many bike you have. To me 
it's no different than clothes, each article I own has a purpose for being 
here. 
Marketing is funny, it seems on one hand you can never have enough, and on 
the other is the minimalist life sucking vampire energy of guilt for having 
too much/many, if at all. As one with a vivid imagination, it's easy to get 
swept away into the abyss of such la-la-land. Sooner or later though I 
catch on to what's happening. Reality is right where here, right now, and 
it's alive, vibrant, and ever suprisingly beautiful. It's not for sale and 
can't be bought, don'tchaknow. There's no shortage of BEING, nor is there 
such a thing as too much. The grass is green everywhere ! 

When I see a premade bike frame that suits my dimensional standards, and 
where and how I like to ride, I buy it. Because I'm very precise in those 
dimensions, there aren't many that qualify, at least prefabricated ones. 

I really do wish I could own another Riv, but as of today none qualify. The 
Bomba seems a one-off for suitability in Riv terms. I've studied enough of 
geometry to get the gist of the handling, so one of these dayze my custom 
from Jack @Franklin frames will get around to making one like it but with 
my own specified modifications to better suit me. That's what's so great 
about a custom, every detail is up for negotiation. Especially the paint ! 
On Monday, August 18, 2025 at 12:23:16 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:

> Thanks for sharing, that is a great read. Before I had a "gravel" bike I 
> rode gravel all day on 28mm road tires and long reach caliper brakes. My 
> hands hurt and I was generally more sore, but at the end of the day I was 
> just as fast and had the same square metric volumes of fun.
>
> On Saturday, August 16, 2025 at 12:28:20 PM UTC-7 Jay wrote:
>
>> Love that quote, Jason.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 16, 2025 at 12:02:31 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for sharing this, Max.  It's always good to be reminded of the 
>>> reasons that n-1 > n+1.  
>>>
>>> The quote, "They typically rode steel, straight top tube bikes, wore 
>>> natural fibers, and emanated a sense of joy" reminds me of our thread 
>>> from March 2008 
>>> <https://groups.google.com/u/2/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/rbUCaFLn47M/m/_NR0iRsdLn0J>
>>>  about 
>>> the tweed dot cc folks (their website is still up!).
>>>
>>> Omitting Riv/Grant is a journalistic oversight, but Mr. Morales is 29, 
>>> so we need to give him time to catch up on the 40-45 Riv Readers that 
>>> discuss such topics.  Or perhaps he should have known? (He interviewed 
>>> <https://bikepacking.com/plog/philly-bike-expo-2025-part-1/> Will 
>>> Keating at the Philly Bike Expo and reported 
>>> <https://bikepacking.com/bikes/bikes-of-bike-camp-2025/> on other 
>>> all-roadish Rivs in 2025).
>>>
>>> If I may push back slightly against Mr. Morales's thesis: I *needed* a 
>>> 2004 62cm Rambouillet and a 2006 62cm Quickbeam, even if they had 
>>> essentially the same geometry and tires, and even if one of the Ram's 27 
>>> gear combinations was identical to the QB's.  Alas, one can only stash so 
>>> many bikes in apartment building stairwells. 
>>>
>>> Will in NYC
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 12, 2025 at 10:14:44 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>>>
>>>> I enjoyed the article, it made me wonder if n+1 makes sense or is it 
>>>> just the result of the progression of bike marketing. I don’t know, 
>>>> sometimes Im happy at at N=8, while pondering a bike purchase on FB 
>>>> marketplace or eBay, and sometimes I want to go to N=1 or 2 max and call 
>>>> it 
>>>> a day because I feel the wastefulness of a basement with 6-7 bikes that 
>>>> aren’t ridden often enough.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I found it surprising that Riv and/or Grant weren’t mentioned.
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>> [image: has-marketing-ruined-bikes_share1.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> Has Marketing Ruined Bikes? 
>>>> <https://bikepacking.com/plog/has-marketing-ruined-bikes/>
>>>> bikepacking.com 
>>>> <https://bikepacking.com/plog/has-marketing-ruined-bikes/>
>>>> <https://bikepacking.com/plog/has-marketing-ruined-bikes/>
>>>>
>>>

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