Actually the first PDF wasn't labeled with a number as it just showed the materials list (protractor, etc.)
The second pdf was the first step in the actual drawing and so on from there... Aloha On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Johnny Alien <johnnyal...@verizon.net>wrote: > OK...that says step 3 on it so I assume it is just a number mishap. > > On Aug 2, 8:39 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Step 4 was seat tube angle: > > > > http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/336/original_n4_seat_tube_angl... > > > > On Aug 2, 5:37 pm, Johnny Alien <johnnyal...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Did I miss step 4 somewhere? I had the PDF with step 3 and then the > > > next one was step 5. Was that just an error? > > > > > On Aug 2, 1:44 pm, Pondero <cj.spin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Excellent! Now scan it and show the rest of us. It's critique time. > > > > > > Seriously, your approach sounds exactly like what I would do, and I'd > > > > love to see it. > > > > > > On Aug 2, 12:35 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I went ahead and worked ahead. Grant had us up to seat tube angle. > I > > > > > did chainstay next, and then seat tube length, which allowed me to > > > > > connect the dots for my seatstays. Then I marked my saddle height > and > > > > > drew a level line from the saddle to the front end. I knew I > wanted > > > > > to be able to get the bars and saddle level with a Nitto Pearl > stem. > > > > > I ended up with a slightly sloping top tube (more slope than a > Hilsen, > > > > > less than a Bomba/Hillborne) and still had my standover at a > > > > > comfortable level. Then I dropped the headtube angle to the ground > > > > > and pulled back the trail, which positioned my front hub and > > > > > established fork rake. I went ahead with the compass and spun the > > > > > wheels in, and from that marked where I want the brake bridges. I > > > > > kind of guessed where the downtube meets the headtube. But the > thing > > > > > is drawn. It's basically a slightly modified 58cm 650B Hilsen/ > > > > > Saluki. > > > > > > > On Jul 28, 10:00 am, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think Laney College here in Oakland did aframebuilding class, > as > > > > > > well as The Crucible, which is a vocational arts school with > every > > > > > > kind of heat based trade (glass, welding, blacksmithing, etc). > Maybe > > > > > > I should look into that. > > > > > > > > On Jul 27, 9:08 pm, Bill Gibson <bill.bgib...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I took a welding class (Welding for Artists, or something like > that) > > > > > > > at the local community college a few years ago and got to try > > > > > > > everything and developed instant respect for the simplest welds > in my > > > > > > > life. I got to try both gas and electric and gas brazing and > plasma > > > > > > > cutting, and it's on my list. But teaching school science > starting > > > > > > > last week, 6 weeks too soon for me -maybe it's time to retire > and ride > > > > > > > and make bikes and whittle spoons and kuksas...need to gather > school > > > > > > > supplies... > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Steve <sring...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > I did this: signed up for a framebuilding class, measured my > youngest > > > > > > > > son who needed a good road bike, and built a virtual clone of > my > > > > > > > > Rambouillet. The only change I made > > > > > > > > was to increase the fender clearance slightly under the > headtube and > > > > > > > > the seat stay bridge since my Ram frankly runs at the minimum > usable > > > > > > > > clearance with 28mm tires. The lugged bike turned > > > > > > > > out to be spectacular: it handles, if you can believe this, > slightly > > > > > > > > better than the Ram (although I suspect that my handling test > was > > > > > > > > biased due to less weight in the front bag). No matter; he > loves the > > > > > > > > bike. I spent about twelve Sundays building this and loved > every > > > > > > > > minute of it. If you can spare the time and cash, do it. > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > Ames, IA > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 27, 1:25 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Grant is apparently going to teach us how todrawa > bikeframein his > > > > > > > >> little step by step way. I'm going to follow along. I want > a custom > > > > > > > >>framethat somewhat resembles a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hilsen. > The > > > > > > > >> critical differences will be that I want it 130mm spaced and > want it > > > > > > > >> to be a lighter frameset. I don't know if I'll ever get > this frameset > > > > > > > >> made, or whether it will be a Rivendell or an Ebisu or a > Davidson or > > > > > > > >> something else. But I'm looking forward to drawing it. > I've done a > > > > > > > >> fair amount of drafting table work in Engineering school, > but never > > > > > > > >> went ahead and drew a bike. 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