Sounds like you'll need two wheelsets!

I swapped tires a few times the first winter I rode (studded/non-studded). I 
couldn't bring myself to ride with studs on several perfectly snow&ice-free 
days in a row. (That was before I had the 2nd bike.) I got a 2nd wheelset 
before too long. Swapping wheels was a *lot* less tedious than swapping tires.

Now, of course, I'll probably leave the studded-tire wheels on the Trek each 
year from for first snow&ice day until the last... sometime in mid/late May! :)

Yours, from Chicagoland,
Thomas Lynn Skean


On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Montclair BobbyB <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Thanks, Thomas!
> 
> OK, so I'm diving in on a leap of faith... (which is how the faithful
> always dive, right?)
> 
> Before I have even received my first pair of handlebars (they're on
> order), I've already purchased (from DaVinci) the full monty... the
> complete handlebar swap packages for shifters and rear brake...
> 
> I'll be shortly setting up my Bombadil with a Noodle 48cm bar/Dirt
> Drop Stem/7-spd bar end shifter combo (as Setup A).  Setup B will
> entail swapping in a set of the Riv Bullmoose bars (in dull-brite
> finish) with vintage Suntour XC9000 brake levers and Shimano Deore
> brushed alum friction thumbies (for that tried and true old school
> feel).  I've already got several sets of bullmoose bars (old style),
> but am really looking forward to riding the beautifully-sweptback Riv
> version.
> 
> Rear derailleur will be an XTR m951 on a 7-speed freewheel; the front
> will be vintage m700 Deore Deerhead
> 
> I've been talkin smack to a friend about being able to swap bars in 5
> minutes... Heck, if I can even do this within 10 minutes, that will be
> phenomenal... I also may throw in a tire change as the Bomba changes
> personalities (ie black Big Apples with the drops, Creme Fat Franks
> with the bullmoose)... but that's getting a little ahead of myself...
> I have to build up and RIDE the bike first!
> 
> Thanks again, Thomas for sharing this... GREAT STUFF!!
> 
> On Sep 10, 12:10 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Heh heh.... if those high quality photos exist, they were taken by
>> someone who has a hillborne and four cockpits (like me!) and is a high
>> quality photographer (unlike me!).
>> 
>> Seriously, I intend to get some better shots with a real camera (my
>> phone's camera is more marketing tool and photography tool). I'll
>> update this thread when I do. A better camera will help.
>> 
>> I also intend to bump this thread over the next few weeks as I update
>> the page with configuration changes or additional comments written
>> after I've spent more time with each cockpit.
>> 
>> Yup, I'm using a Dirt Drop 100 on all non-Bullmoose cockpits (max'd
>> out on the Moustache and Noodle, an inch or so below max'd out for the
>> Albatross). I did that for two reasons:
>> 
>> One, I really couldn't imagine that I'd *prefer* a stem with *less*
>> height and/or *more* extension. You should know that my happy starting
>> point was the Albatross bars on a Dirt Drop 100 (max'd out at first,
>> then to my surprise I found I preferred it a little lower and
>> *perhaps* further out as well), anything other than a most-height/
>> least-extension combination seemed *unthinkable* for bars with no or
>> negative rise and substantially less back-sweep. I didn't want to use
>> my stem extension as a starting point.  Unless I'm wrong on my seat-o-
>> the-pants cogitating, I imagine a Nitto 225mm-quill Technomic Standard
>> with a really short (say, 80mm or less) extension *might* give more
>> height and/or less extension, but that not much difference of either.
>> And I thought that'd simply look too funny.
>> 
>> Two, in the spirit of well-controlled research (ahem) I kind of wanted
>> to start out with the bars (1) making a difference in the cockpit
>> (variety and experimentation are goals) and (2) *being* the difference
>> in the cockpit (to sort of compare the bars per se and let them drive
>> the variety).
>> 
>> Down the road, I could imagine replacing the Dirt Drop 100 on the
>> Albatross bars with a max'd out Technomic Deluxe, perhaps a 9cm or
>> 10cm extension. I could also imagine, down the road, using the stem
>> extender with the Bullmoose bars, especially if I want to use them for
>> a longer-distance (30+ mile) ride. But for now I still like the
>> variety provided by the as-is Bullmoose bars. And I think the
>> Moustache and the Noodles will stay on the max'd Dirt Drop 100.
>> Particularly with the Noodles; I'm not anxious to re-stitch the
>> leather on one side! :)
>> 
>> Yours,
>> Thomas Lynn Skean
>> 
>> On Sep 10, 9:21 am, Earl Grey <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Great post, but where oh where are the high quality photos of your
>>> complete bike with each cockpit? :)
>> 
>>> You appear to be using the same stem with 3 of the bars? Do you set
>>> them at the same height? That would be interesting, as I think I would
>>> want a shorter extension for a moustache versus a noodle, and or
>>> greater height (Switched from comfy noodles on my non-Sam to
>>> moustaches, and missed the top of the bar position/was too stretched
>>> out, so I switched to some VO porteurs, and now am too upright [all
>>> with the same stem]).
>> 
>>> Gernot
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 12:38 am, "Robert F. Harrison" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Thanks for the write-up on all the different bars and how you use them.
>>>> Being a stout-but-active middle-aged man myself I found it all quite
>>>> interesting. I only have m-bars on my Quickbeam and am quite pleased with
>>>> them but next year I'm thinking about a bike with derailleurs and your
>>>> footwork will aid greatly in my choice of bars.
>> 
>>>> Aloha!
>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean <
>> 
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi, all!
>> 
>>>>> (wordy... skip to the link for the main content)
>> 
>>>>> For about a year before I got my Hillborne, I was a happy Albatross
>>>>> bar cyclist. I remain a happy Albatross bar cyclist. But in my youth I
>>>>> rode drop bars and liked them. Later I had also ridden mountain-bike-y
>>>>> bars and liked them. Having ridden almost daily for a couple of years
>>>>> now, I've gone from being a total couch-potato huffing-puffing fat guy
>>>>> to being an energetic less-fat able-bodied guy. Along the way I have
>>>>> discovered that almost all of my ideas about "discomfort" when cycling
>>>>> were really reflecting my utter lack of general fitness. Growing more
>>>>> fit made me realize I could sit this way and move that way and bend
>>>>> the other way, without causing pain or feeling at risk. That is, I
>>>>> started feeling even *more* comfortable on my bike, more loose and
>>>>> more "able". And started thinking "you know, it wouldn't be so bad to
>>>>> stretch out here, lean there, tuck in more". I began to wonder what
>>>>> riding in positions besides being bolt upright might be like. And now
>>>>> that I had a Hillborne frameset, surely one of the most versatile bike
>>>>> platforms around, I thought perhaps I could set it up with different
>>>>> handlebars to accommodate somewhat different riding styles and
>>>>> positions.
>> 
>>>>> I had, as a stout-but-active middle-aged man, become bar-curious.
>> 
>>>>> (sorry...)
>> 
>>>>> In case you're still reading, below is a link to my web page
>>>>> describing how I satisfied my curiosity. There you'll find
>>>>> descriptions, parts lists, some pictures, and general comments. And, I
>>>>> promise, no puns.
>> 
>>>>> http://tiny.cc/h1p8s
>> 
>>>>> I really can't overstate how much I like my Hillborne. For me, its
>>>>> lengths and angles have felt exactly right from the very first time I
>>>>> sat on one. Putting parts on it was truly fun. And now it looks
>>>>> beautiful and rides great. In all its forms.
>> 
>>>>> Yours,
>>>>> Thomas Lynn Skean
>> 
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