Nice blog = ) .......... it somewhat supports my unscientific testing over the last few years on numerous rides of varying length. My findings....a light wheeled, light (21 pound) vintage race bike accelerates fast, my recumbent accelerates slower but cruises faster over flat and rolling terrain regardless, most of the time, my Surly Trucker and 38mm tires is the most comfortable bike I own and the most versatile, my home made two speed (about 22 pounds) taught me to pedal fast if I wanted to go fast and after a couple thousand miles the chain is still not stretched on the gauge, my old Centurion mustache barred bike gave me the fastest time to work of any bike (once), I rode my recumbent ten rolling miles in 30 minutes and did it again on my Surly Trucker with 32mm tires at 90 psi a year later, I went down a hill on my Rans V2 at 49 mph and it scared the beans out of me then I stupidly did it a year later on a steeper hill on my old Raleigh (but even faster) and my brakes faded to nothing when I tried to stop, nearly hitting a truck, I think I want a Rivendell Simple One because I like Simple stuff but I have too many bikes already and I must sell a few before I can afford one. Go Rivendell.........you folks (Grant) inspired me to get comfortable on an upright bike again and that has helped me to stay more active than I would have otherwise plus it has made me happier
On Nov 20, 8:51 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > I did a quite scientific study of this earlier this summer. The results: Not > much > difference.<http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/bike-servations.html> > The good news is that both bikes are a lot of fun to ride! > > Almost got out for a ride today, but clear spells always seemed to line up > with day-care duties. > > > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:01 PM, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Yea really............the one pound frame weight diff can't make one > > bike a "thudder" (whatever that means) its got to be the combination > > of elements that influence ride qualities. As far as performance goes > > you'd have to measure it over a long period and have direct > > comparisons which is really hard to do. Headwinds, my energy, > > hydration etc. there are so many variables that it just seems too > > difficult to make comparisons. I have several bikes that range in > > weight and components and even type and there seems to be no rhyme or > > reason as to why one days "fast ride" happens on the heavy bike and > > the next ride on the race bike is actually slower. Actually I don't > > even care........ I just want a derailleurless frame that will take > > some use buy a middle aged, overweight guy who wants to ride to work > > in the spring and summer and not have it prematurely crack somewhere. > > A little thicker tubing makes me feel better about my purchase in the > > long run.......perhaps its a non issue in the real world as it appears > > some of you are riding your QB's loaded with groceries or hopping ruts > > and rocks on trails. That's certainly not something I would be doing > > but rather up to 96 miles of smooth pavement during the week...... and > > the primal diet. > > > On Nov 20, 1:46 pm, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > on 11/20/10 5:49 AM, robert zeidler at zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Just as an added thought.... He is going too far in the "stout" > > direction. > > > These things are way overbuilt and as a result, too heavy, or at least > > > heaveir than they ought to be. I know they don't care about that, but at > > > the end of a long day, that is when you start to notice the weight. I > > used > > > think, well, I'll just get 5 lbs lighter and it's a wash, but it doesn't > > > work that way for some reason. My .02, YMMV. > > > > I'd have to dig back into my notes, but I think the resultant frame > > > differences between "heavy" tubing and "light" tubing might mean a pound > > on > > > a ~60 cm frame. > > > > Now, you might be able to come up with a five pound difference in the > > full > > > build pretty readily, but it's not specifically a frameset issue. > > > > It does seem that the most recent models and revisions have tended > > towards > > > stouter framesets, but now that those changes have shaken through, we're > > > presented with a range of models, which you could think of as "limber" to > > > "stout"... > > > > Roadeo/San Marcos - > Hilsen - > Hillborne -> Atlantis -> Hunquapillar - > > > > Bombadil > > > > My Quickbeam seems just a hair more limber than my Hilsen, and they are > > both > > > right in that range of feel that works for just about everything I like > > to > > > do. > > > > - Jim > > > > -- > > > Jim Edgar > > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > > > Three T-shirts Now Available: > > > "I've Got Downtube Shifters..." S/S T-shirt > > > Cyclocross - "More Cowbell" L/S T-shirt > > > "One Cog - Zero Excuses" L/S T-shirthttp://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff > > > > Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com > > > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > > > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > > > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > probably benefit more from > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
