> Morning Everyone:
>
> I know that the Atlantis is design for rear loading more than front loading
> but do any of you guys fight with the instability of front loading on a
> Atlantis?
>
> Thanks
>
> K.

Hi Khalid,
As another data point, I rode my Atlantis (now regrettably sold)
loaded and unloaded, on- and off-road, 0-45mph and never had any
instability issues with a front load.  It was a 54.5cm 26" wheeled
version with 1.5-2.0" tires.  On more than several occasions, I loaded
the front with weight (bag of wrenches strapped to the rack, small
ortliebs with random items, etc) for fun rides in the mountains around
Asheville.  I loved the way the bike took corners on the smooth and
fast descents.

You can see a typical touring setup here  http://tinyurl.com/3p35yvu

For me, denser and heavier items up front and bulkier items in the
rear works best.  I've found larger/bulkier (not necessarily heavier)
loads up front (Baggins panniers stuffed full, for example) are less
appealling to me.  Trying to keep the front weight as close to the
steering axis as possible seems to work well for me.

IMO, thinking of the Atlantis in particular, and Rivendells in
general, as "rear loading" designs is oversimplifying a very
sophisticated and complex issue in bicycle design - an issue not fully
understood and definitely not agreed on in any universal way.  In my
experience, the handling of a bike when carrying a load is influenced
by a whole host of variables, far more nuanced than "is the load in
the front or rear".  Are the racks sturdy?  Are the connection points
between racks and frame solid?  How far is the front load distanced
from the steering axis?  Tire size and volume?  Speed?  Road/trail
condition and type?  Mountains and switchbacks or plains and
straightaways?  Standing or seating while pedaling?  Handlebar type?
Stem length?  Rider weight and distribution?  And I just get dizzy
thinking about the relationship of head tube angle, fork rake, wheel
size, tire volume, chainstay length, bb placement, tubing butts,
tubing diameter, tubing thickness, handelbar width, stem length, quill
height, etc....

I absolutely agree with Doug's recommendation of experimenting with
load placement on your own.  All this anecdotal interweb evidence can
be helpful only to a point, then you gotta see what works for you.
And after owning, loading, and riding 4 different Rivendell models, I
feel any Riv (but especially the Atlantis) is a great platform on
which to begin this experiment.  And unless you are just carrying
IPA's and propane a short distance to a barbeque, I don't highly
recommend this load distribution.  http://tinyurl.com/4x8czrt

hope this helps some,

-Jay B.
Denver, CO

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