More curious than anything else. I'm not sure  but I thInk only Waterfords have 
undertubes, and a 64cm monotube would have a quite long head tube for current 
Rivthink.

I recently rode a 64cm Hillborne and it felt nice and big compared to my 65cm 
Mercian, which has a much shorter headtube and a jacked up Technomic.

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