I like that the Iris is stiffest at the top of the cage where it can best restrain the bottle. My old Riv Aellee's (sp?) are quite rattly with a Klean Kanteen because the whole cage pivots from the bottom edge of the cage.
The only flaw I see with myfavorite Iris/KK 28oz wide mouth combo is that the King cages don't have a tab for strap mounting. One of my bikes has cage mounts on the down tube but not seat tube, and I need straps to attach a bottle cage. I see that VO says of their Moderniste that the "newer, stronger version cannot be used with bottle cage clamps" so even if they are now made better, they no longer would solve my only issue with King. Pity... On Jun 15, 1:51 pm, Benedikt <neutralbuoya...@comcast.net> wrote: > My Velo Orange cages fell apart after a few short mile. Broken > weld. > > My Kleen Kanteen's have no rattling AT ALL in my King Cage Iris. Both > insulated and regular. > > On Jun 15, 1:14 pm, andrew hill <neurod...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've found the VO cages to be underwhelming in build quality - I've had 3 > > different styles (type I, II, and moderniste) and two of them have > > separated at the welds, and one of the three wasn't even close to "true" > > either - e.g. crooked lines set-up pre-weld (one of the type I/II - forget > > which). > > > On Jun 15, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Bill Gibson (III) wrote: > > > > I have and daily enjoy my Klean Kanteens (sp?) both single and double > > > wall bottles. The folks at the company seems to be great, too, it might > > > be a family design and sourcing operation, except the bottles aren't made > > > locally, as in the USA. They sent me a recall notice for one of my bottle > > > caps, then sent me two replacements even though the cap I sent in wasn't > > > defective, so I bought another Klean Kanteen. I'm using them in some > > > Camelback neoprene sleeves in off bike use, and in my Quickbeam's bottle > > > cages in on bike use. I got my Quickeam's cages from Velo Orange. > > > >http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/water-bottles-cage... > > > > I like what Velo Orange is up to almost as much a what Rivendell is up to > > > and want to support both, but... > > > > I can't think of a better use of the wool in an > > > all-used-up-and-can't-be-darned-any-more-sock-or-sweater than an > > > evaporative cooling sleeve for a feeder bottle. Boil the wool, then use > > > scissors, then sew it up to fit. > > > > I remember bike shops selling little wool bottle socks just for that > > > purpose decades ago. At this time of year they dry out in about 1/2 hour > > > in Southern Arizona. Remember those canteens with the wool serape pattern > > > covers? Works. > > > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Rene Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > Do they fit on KK Iris cages? I thought they didn't... > > > > Sent from my iPhone 4 > > > > On Jun 15, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Zack <zack...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Robert: You should try one of the double-walled insulated KK > > > > bottles! They are awesome. You can keep coffee hot and water cold > > > > for a pretty good amount of time. In my experience it's a little > > > > better at keeping coffee hot for a while than water cold, but it's > > > > still a vast improvement over the single walled KK. > > > > > -Z > > > > > On Jun 15, 1:19 pm, "Robert F. Harrison" <rfharri...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I use KKs but I've always put a wet sock around them. This not only > > > >> stops > > > >> the rattling but keeps the water much cooler in the Hawaiian sun. With > > > >> the > > > >> right sock it's not terribly unattractive and as it works well I don't > > > >> worry > > > >> about how it looks. > > > > >>http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2787/4355453296_13cf567091_z.jpg > > > > >> <http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2787/4355453296_13cf567091_z.jpg>Aloha! > > > > >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Darin G. <dbg...@mac.com> wrote: > > > >>> Those of you using the Kleen Kanteen--do they rattle around? I > > > >>> suspect there is a difference between being secure in the cage and not > > > >>> making noise every time you go over a bump. > > > > >>> On Jun 15, 6:14 am, John Aydelotte <j.m.aydelo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>> +1 for the King Kage Iris. I have them on almost all my bikes. They > > > >>>> fit the Klean Kanteen bottles extremely well. > > > > >>>> I actually met the guy who makes them at the Rocky Mountain Bicycle > > > >>>> Festival this past weekend. He made most of a cage in front of me in > > > >>>> under a minute (not including the part that holds it onto the bike -- > > > >>>> I think that's welded on). I am happy to support a local businessman > > > >>>> (Durango, CO) who makes such a great product. > > > > >>>> On Jun 15, 5:05 am, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: > > > > >>>>> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 21:59 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: > > > >>>>>> King Cage Iris cages. Not as elegant as the Nittos, but still look > > > >>>>>> interesting and have held up well so far (bought earlier this > > > >>>>>> year). > > > >>>>>> They carry KK bottles fine, with no need for twine or leather. > > > > >>>>> The King Iris is the best cage there is for an under-the-downtube > > > >>> upside > > > >>>>> down mount, as the weight of the bottle cannot pull the cage open. > > > > >>> -- > > > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > >>> Groups > > > >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > >>> To post to this group, send email to > > > >>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > >>> For more options, visit this group at > > > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > >> -- > > > >> Robert Harrison > > > >> rfharri...@gmail.com > > > >> statrix.com > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > Bill Gibson > > > Tempe, Arizona, USA > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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