When that happens eat more fats and protein plus veggies not carbs. I
just eat a big steak and a huge salad then top it off with
strawberries and home made whip cream using stevia to 'sweeten'. It
satiates me just fine, is low carb and I get enough calories. Doing
this now for a while and still losing fat. If I eat the carbs I get on
a vicious circle of wanting more later.

On Aug 15, 9:39 pm, "Darin G." <dbg...@mac.com> wrote:
> I've had a tough time with this aspect of long rides, paleo or not,
> and tend to get a "sweet stomach" from gatorade, energy gels, blocks,
> etc, but on longer rides I bonk if I don't eat, which ruins the ride
> (or hike or ski, or whatever) and  presents a dilemma.  I tend to do
> best eating eggs, sausage and a small serving of potatoes for
> breakfast and then eating "food" along the way, be it pizza or a
> sandwich with fruit, especially apples, and maybe some carrot sticks
> and cucumbers.  I'd probably eat meatloaf and mashed potatoes if my
> mom were to meet me along the way.  I'm going to try grilled cheese
> sandwiches this winter.  The pizza and sandwich are not paleo for
> sure, but I'm more interested in avoiding the bonk while not getting
> nauseous, and I don't know how it matters when you're burning 5,000
> calories on the ride.  I'm obviously not a nutritionist and perhaps
> there is a precise way to dose yourself with pure paleo food and not
> bonk but in the make-it-up-as-I-go-along world this is the best I've
> come up with.  I usually do not eat anything on rides shorter than 3
> hours which seems to work well for me.
>
> My brother-in-law developed the Pro-Bar which is one of the more
> palatable bars (lots of fat, seeds, etc.) and I keep one in my saddle
> bag as a back up.  I asked him about a digestible energy source for
> long events and he said he tells cross-country skiers and distance
> cyclists to take a baked potato in a ziplock with a little olive oil
> and salt.  You could take it a step further and make it a yam or a
> sweet potato.  Put it in a rubbermaid container in your saddle bag.
> Each potato comes out around 200 calories and slightly less than 50
> grams of easily digested carbohydrate.  Its gotta taste better than
> the crap they serve at the aid stations at most century rides and Mark
> Sisson seems to be generally approving of potatoes as an energy
> source.
>
> The real challenge for me is the day after the long ride.  The day of
> the ride my appetite tends to be suppressed by the activity
> (especially if its hot)  but it comes back with a vengeance the next
> day which makes diet compliance difficult.  I spent today fantasizing
> about a Margherita pizza for instance and I started salivating just
> reading the post above about jamon with manchego on baguette.  Still
> working on tweaking the post long ride menu.
>
> On Aug 15, 8:29 pm, charlie <cl_v...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Well you have to ask yourself the real question.....that is, If you
> > are eating "paleo" are you exercising paleo? Unless you are riding at
> > a lower pace (similar to the output of a walker) you will need to
> > consume a higher amount of carbohydrate. Fruit and veggies are the
> > natural thing for that. If you are riding 4-12 hours, eat fats,
> > protein, veggies, nuts, fruit.... just like when you are not riding.
> > This assumes you are trying to burn fat as you ride. Unless you
> > continually 'top off' with carbs you'll soon be out of glucose anyway
> > and will have to burn fat for energy. I think they call it 'the bonk'.
> > I've just come to the conclusion that I don't like riding that long or
> > that hard. If I can't finish my riding in a 5-6 hour day, I'm going to
> > do the sensible thing and take a rest, eat some food and go to sleep
> > until the next day. The best post ride food in my mind would be the
> > same thing I eat normally just a little more of it.  For protein, eggs
> > or fish seem to digest better for me than a steak but the fat in the
> > steak satiates better after exercising. I also like the way I feel
> > eating primarily vegetables and meat. During a ride you ask........I
> > eat fruit or nuts or berries maybe even a little turkey jerky or a
> > teriyaki stick. Most of my riding these days however is two hours at a
> > time or less so I rarely eat when I ride and just drink some water.
> > I've also taken to riding my new SimpleOne and I've changed the way I
> > ride and do more gut busting climbing coupled with easy spinning and
> > coasting and some high velocity spinning for the fast twitch fibers.
> > Kind of a interval type of thing like when I commute to work from
> > light to light. On the few longer rides I've done I slow my pace quite
> > a bit and plod along.
>
> > On Aug 14, 5:30 pm, reynoldslugs <be...@perrylaw.net> wrote:
>
> > > Sorry to resuscitate a dying thread, but here goes:
>
> > > I like the way the Taubes/Paleo makes me feel - -won't rehash.
> > > Problem I have is long rides - - 4 to 12 hours.  I have not figured
> > > out the "Taubesian" foods work to keep you going during the ride, or
> > > how to handle that feeling of post-ride starvation.
>
> > > What do you eat during the ride, and how do you handle the post-ride
> > > meal?
>
> > > I don't think I should be putting Candy Bars in my Candy Bar Bag, but
> > > hard boiled eggs and raw broccoli aren't getting me through the long
> > > days.
>
> > > Any suggestions?
>
> > > Thanks.  I know this post is not really Rivendell related, and the
> > > "Candy Bar Bag" humor is weak.
>
> > > RL

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