I have been lurking a while as I wait for my AHH frame to arrive (RIV content) - I have lots of questions about the build but thought I'd comment on the Flyer question. I originally got the VO Model 5 saddle for my Trek 880 (a resurrected hybrid) and used it successfully for some loaded touring and longer day rides. I did find that the string that holds the sides together would stretch and in some cases break allowing the saddle to sag somewhat. Dealing with this issue, I still felt that the springs gave a comfortable ride. I now have a Flyer on my Rocky Mountain Sherpa touring bike and have found it to be even more comfortable - I have used it on numerous day rides, a couple loaded overnights, a couple 200km brevets and 1/2 of this year's Cycle Oregon (the 1/2 is another story) - all told probably about 2500-3000 miles. I really don't notice the springs unless I am riding on root strewn trails or when an unexpected pothole pops up. Then it is great because of the shock absorbing nature of the springs. The only other time I might notice the springs is when I am in the wrong gear and spinning madly like a hamster and bouncing up & down on the saddle. Cannot blame the saddle for that though. I love the firm leather and did not really experience any breakin-period though I did give it the proofride treatment top and bottom initially. However, I am looking to experiment with a B17 on the AHH when it arrives.
FWIW Dennis (hoping for good news from RIV soon) Hogan On Oct 7, 6:59 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J" <thomas.alling...@skadden.com> wrote: > The springs on the Flyer on my Atlantis squeak, too, but I find it soothing > somehow. They're definitely responding to bumps etc (i'm 190 or so). And > despite the fact that my Flyer is carved for decoration (I know, I know -- I > can be a bit of a dandy), the leather has held up extremely well. Never wet, > though. > > ________________________________ > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Shine > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 9:17 AM > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: B-17 vs Flyer > > At 180 pounds, the springs on my Flyer barely and rarely compress enough to > feel or even sense. I am still riding the "old" way, by shifting weight onto > the pedals if I see a pot hole, tracks, sharp curb, etc. For me and my > riding style, the springs are virtually useless. The leather on my Flyer is > not at all saggy. Quite the opposite. It is the hardest Brooks I have ever > owned (and, frankly, the most attractive in terms of brown tints and tones). > The saddle is heavy, also. All that said, I still have it mounted on my > Quickbeam for some reason. > > ________________________________ > From: cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thu, October 6, 2011 9:09:56 PM > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: B-17 vs Flyer > > I found the leather on two different Flyer saddles to stretch and lose > tension really quickly. And the springs were always annoyingly squeaky. > Don't know about the rail lenghts. > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Joe Bernard > <joerem...@gmail.com<mailto:joerem...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > This is a fuzzy memory from 5 years ago, but I would estimate the difference > is about a centimeter. Grant is right about the springs: At 160lbs. back then > (oh, glory days), the only difference between the two saddles was looks and > weight. 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