Building up the hilsen and I'm trying to use a set of thumbies on
noodles. Running into a few issues:


1. do I need to buy a set of noodles to make the angle work to carry
the cable housing down to the down tube stops?
2. I bought the 'road' thumbies and yet I can't quite make them stop
rotating on the noodles. Do they have to be clamped on the sleeve or
do I have to shim them? (which seems odd since I ordered the road ones
in particular b/c of wanting to use them with noodles.)

ideas?
thanks,
-sv

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