Both are bevelled? That's just weird or I'm losing it. Can you photograph it for me?
And the alligator mouth wants to eat the bigger number, so you are looking for a >30yo mechanic, not a <30yo mechanic. :) On Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:19:57 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > William, thanks! VERY interesting... kind of a cool feature on Shimao's > part. They are indeed old DA hubs from the 90's. 7700 series to be exact. I > converted > them to 135mm <http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2406321019/>four > years ago. I just checked and > *both *locknuts are beveled on the rear, but neither of the front ones > are. > > So, so, so, so... I'm gonna' see if I can find a non-beveled one I may > have lying around or swap one out from elsewhere and give that a try! > > I'll keep looking for the elusive <30 y.o. mechanic. Wish me luck with > that one! > > GREAT advice in this continuing saga! > > > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> There is no way whatsoever for dish to have anything to do with this >> problem. It does no harm to have dish checked if you think it might not be >> right, but dish never caused a hub to slip in the dropouts. >> >> The reason the first generation of 130mm spaced dura ace hubs had a >> beveled locknut was to aid in wedging your 126mm frameset open to take the >> thing. That beveled locknut was on the left side, though, and we're >> talking about dura ace cassette hubs from the early 1990s. If you swapped >> parts around when you converted this dura ace rear hub to 135mm, then you >> actually might have solved your own problem. Specifically if you moved the >> left side locknut on an early 90's dura ace hub to the driveside, then that >> very well might be the cause of your slippage. Have that specifically >> looked at, preferably by a mechanic older than 30. >> >> On Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:57:55 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Jeremy et al, I finally got around to changing the wheelset out to a >>> Phil/Bontrager >>> heavy duty >>> wheelset<http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/7193475208/in/photostream>I >>> have. Don't use it very much, so it wasn't the first thing I thought of. >>> Thanks for the suggestions to try that approach! >>> >>> Anyway, Phil w/ the same Mavic skewers led to zero slippage. I rode the >>> same route (although a bit slower due to a headache) as last week. I >>> purposely left the skewer a bit looser than I was using it on the other >>> wheelset (Dura Ace converted to 135 spacing). Not a problem at all! >>> >>> Soooooo, some combination of the DA wheelset with the bike is leading to >>> wheel slippage. I'm gong to get the dish checked out as suggested, maybe >>> that is it? I noticed the DA clamping surface isn't fully flat. The edges >>> are beveled so there's not as much contact (why?). There's maybe only >>> 50-75% the contact surface that the Phil hubs have. Possibly part of the >>> problem. Buuuuuut, I have the same hubs on my other Riv w/ horizontal drop >>> outs (DA skewers) and those never slip. >>> >>> Side note: This problem has been progressive. The DA wheelset is >>> probably three or four years old. No problems with my old wheelset, and >>> problems with the DA one seems to have come on slowly. An occasional need >>> to recenter here or there, but not several times during a ride like it is >>> now. >>> >>> So I'm currently back in love with my bike, but want all my wheels to >>> work. Things are getting curioser and curioser... >>> >>> Thanks again for the info and input on this, I'm really trying to figure >>> it out! >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Is it clear when during your rides that it slips? Just spinning along, >>>> cranking out of the saddle, or spinning up a steep climb? I fear it may >>>> just be that your combination of horizontal dropouts, QR's, low gears, and >>>> steep California climbs that just might be too much for QR's. My success >>>> with QR's and horizontals is limited to road bikes with fixed gear >>>> drivetrains or compact double derailleur setups, which lack super-low >>>> stump-pulling gears. >>>> >>>> Have you considered converting the hub to a bolt-on (solid) axle? It >>>> might be the cheapest and simplest solution here. Just have to carry a >>>> 15mm box wrench in your saddle bag. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, May 12, 2012 10:28:28 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That's actually my plan for tomorrow. If it holds, then something's >>>>> wrong w/ the wheel. If it slips, the bike (or possibly the second wheel >>>>> as >>>>> well!). I'll report back as I know you all are on the edge of your seats >>>>> in >>>>> anticipation! >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, rob markwardt <robmar...@hotmail.com >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Have you tried a different wheel? >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 12, 8:37 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > That's an option. I've wanted Nano-clearance for a wile now... :-) >>>>>> But >>>>>> > aren't Atlantii blue? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Michael_S < >>>>>> mikeybi...@rocketmail.com>**wro**te: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > I think a new Atlantis would solve your dilemma.... think of the >>>>>> big fat >>>>>> > > tires you could run ...... even Nanos. Vertical drop outs, >>>>>> check, no more >>>>>> > > problems, check. 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