>From the Rivendell website; The Sam Hillborne is the replacement for the* Bleriot,* with some differences. It's a cross between the Atlantis, our cantilever-braked touring bike, and the A. Homer HIlsen, our roadish country bike. "It's a cross..." means it has tubing halfway in between the two (in *wall thickness.*..) and the 40mm max tire clearance (and straight chainstays) of the A.Homer Hilsen.
I imagine the AHH has slightly heavier tubing than the Roadeo, but thinner tubing than the Atlantis and the Sams. On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:10:25 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The Bleriot and SH were/are built with thicker tubes than the AHH, > correct? My AHH felt very springy/lively, just like my Romulus did. I would > say both are more road-only lighter-load biased than the Bleriot and > Hillborne. > > Joe Bernard > Vallejo, CA. > > On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:10:16 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: > >> >> I've had the same experience in comparing a SH to an AHH: same fit, >> similar toptube, both set up with similar 36-spoke wheels, Brooks saddles, >> and typical Nitto Aluminum bits. Both with Jack Brown greens. The big >> difference in the frames was 60 cm SH with 6 degree toptube slope versus a >> 65 cm AHH with a 1.5 degree toptube slope, but the bar height relative to >> saddle was the same. AHH's chainstay was 0.5 cm shorter! There's faerie >> dust on those AHH's! >> >> - Jim >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Joan Oppel wrote: >> >> I led a group ride this morning for one of the local bike clubs. >> Richard showed up with his brand new A Homer Hilsen. He's very excited >> about the bike, has posted here about his excitement (blueride2). It's a >> pretty standard Riv build. I took my Bleriot to the ride - another >> standard Riv build. >> Differences are: >> Bleriot has Hetres (45 front, 50 rear), AHH has Jack Browns (at 70 front >> and rear) >> Bleriot has SKS fenders, AHH is fenderless (though he is waiting for the >> fenders). >> Bleriot is a 53, AHH is a 55. >> Bleriot has a trunk bag and rack(multi-tool, spare, patch kit) and rack, >> AHH had just a tiny seatbag. >> >> Since I can ride a 55, I took Richard's bike for a short spin. Wow, was >> I impressed. It felt - sprightly, lively. Definitely different than the >> Bleriot. >> >> I'm wondering why. There's maybe a slight difference in weight between >> the two bikes, by feel. Is it the tires? the tubeset? >> Joan >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> >> James Warren >> jimcwar...@earthlink.net >> >> - Remember, my friends, it is better to feel fast than to be fast. >> >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/W_77gA3IquoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.