Well, in case you'd like to include original price in your valuation, bear 
in mind that the Hillborne's historical pricing is complicated. Early in 
2011, framesets from Taiwan were $1,000, Waterford framesets were $1,400 
(Waterford framesets may have been less expensive, say, $1,250, just as 
2011 began). I suspect there's a serial-number/manufacturer relationship 
that RBW might be able to verify for you. My personal recollection is that 
canti-studded frames were all from Waterford and non-canti-studded frames 
were all from Taiwan. (I'd use the name of the manufacturer in Taiwan but 
I've never seen it.) I don't know that anyone has ever expressed the 
opinion that one's frames are somehow better than the other's.
 
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
who chose Waterford to get canti-studs and two top tubes, which were 
available only from Waterford at one time
 

On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:54:57 AM UTC-5, Ozonation wrote:

> Hi... new here, but was advised over in Bike Forums to check this user 
> group! I've been seriously considering a Rivendell, and have settled in a 
> Sam Hillborne. I just came across a 2011 SH model going for about $1600 to 
> $1700 - supposedly it has low mileage. *Does this price sound reasonable? 
> Too good to be true?* Even better, the seller is not too far away. If I 
> manage to check it out, any key things I should be looking for on a used 
> Rivendell bike to see if its in good shape as claimed? Thanks a lot. 
>

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