I love my AHH, and there are smaller Toyo frames on sale at Riv. I
like that dark blue color better than the newer Waterford lighter
blue, so that's a plus (for me). I use the AHH For rando rides, and
it's perfect for that. The Ram would be another good choice (although
it is 26" instead of 650b). I have a 700c Ram, but for long Rando
rides, the plush 38mm 650b wins over the 32-35 mm 700c tires. I don't
know how wide the 26" tires can go, but if you could get the 26"x1.35"
Kojak on, then that could be a very nice ride too. If you can afford
it, then I would go for the AHH. I like the 650b for the fat tire
width on the long brevets, so that would be the reason for me to avoid
the Roadeo.

Toshi


On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:26 AM, RJM <crccpadu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So I have been thinking of getting my next Riv and would really like a bike
> for light road riding primarily. Something that I can do quicker road rides,
> some long rando rides, charity rides, group rides.  One saddle bag or
> handlebar bag would be the most I could see putting on it.  Something a
> little quicker than my 48cm Sam. My question is, do you think a Hilsen would
> be a good compliment to a Sam or is it just too close in functionality and
> build to justify?  Maybe go for the Roadeo instead to have something
> different?
>
> I have a PBH of 79, so pretty short and I am digging the 650b wheels on the
> Sam. Getting a Hilsen would allow me to swap wheels between the two bikes,
> which is a plus. I have a set of wheels made with Phil Rivy hubs and Dyad
> rims, 7 speed freewheel that I could see using for the Hilsen primarily. I
> also have a set of Synergy rimmed, LX hub wheels that I could put on the
> Sam. I like the fact that it has downtube shifter mounts, because that is
> probably the type of shifting that I would go for. (Roadeo doesn't have
> these).  The Roadeo is also 700 wheels, which would require me to get a new
> set of wheels built. The lack of downtube shifting is a con too, but not a
> deal breaker I suppose.
>
> The Sam has been doing fine for all my riding this year, but I tend to keep
> racks and fenders off of it because I don't generally ride it in the rain
> and I have been doing club rides with it, basically I have tried to keep it
> from getting too heavy.  If I get another roadish riv, I plan on putting
> racks and fenders on the Sam and using that for commuting and touring duty.
>
> What does everybody think?  Go for the Hilsen, Roadeo, maybe scrap the whole
> idea and get another Sam?
>
> Thanks.
>
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