The Waterford and Taiwanese Hillbornes are quickly distinguished by the appearance difference in the rear dropouts. The Taiwan bikes have forks made by a Toyo trained fabricator, Waterfords are made locally, but they look the same. Grant was clear that the quality from either location was the same. Writing RBW for specific info on YOUR bike is a best bet to satisfy your curiosity. That answer won't change how your bike rides which you should already know if you like.
In adddition to the tubing info sheet that Cyclofiend Jim linked to earlier, RBW published detailed tube specs for the Ram (Use the "Wayback" archive to view April 2007 catalog pages) . They are all Toyo built with Tohoku-Miyata tubing. Down tube and chain stays are heat treated. Tubes are thinner walled than Atlantis.I suspect Hillborne has thicker wall tubing than Ram, at least in the forks and stays. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.