On Sunday, December 2, 2012 9:01:49 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote: > > It should be pointed out that a whole lot more goes into making a bike a > "go fast" than just the frame and fork.
Agree. How much lighter is a Roadeo than a SM? That difference basically disappears under the rider. Grant states this all the time in his comparison of his frames to carbon. His framesets weigh in the 7+lb range; a modern Chinese carbon frameset can be as low as 3lb (yup, for frame AND fork!). But in the overall weight of the bike, its not that much more, or at that's what he wants you to believe ;) > Roadeo's are fast because they are often built with fairly lightweight > parts, especially wheels. If you end up going for for the San Marcos, > especially in a smaller size like your, I should think you would be able to > make a pretty zippy little bike if you choose the right parts. Get some > lightweight wheels built (how light are those new Pacenti 650b rims?), use > something like Pari Motos or the GB Cypres for tires, some of the lighter > weight Nitto bars, a Thomson seatpost, etc.... Maybe forgo the brooks > (gasp!) or spring for one of the Ti-railed ones. > On the other hand, if this is your "go-fast" are you using a brake/shifter lever combo (brifter)? If so, check out Sram. Several guys in our group have carbon bike with the latest Sram Red and their bikes weigh in *under 15lb!* That's light. If you don't want to spend that much for the Red group, get the Force, its slightly heavier at quite a bit less cost. I also agree with wheels. If you're a lightweight guy, you can get away with lower spoke count wheels. I'm not familiar with 650b stuff, but I heard good things about Velocity rims (lightweight, durable and reasonably price) and the GB tires are suppose to be very good, although fragile. A SM with Sram Force and light wheels should make a very lively bike! Good Luck! > On Saturday, December 1, 2012 4:20:43 PM UTC-8, RJM wrote: >> >> I have been trying to get the funds together for a Riv go fast bike. >> Right now I have been using my Sam Hillborne for it, but I would really >> like to change that into an albatrossed townie commuter bike and get a >> dedicated lighter bike using little to no baggage so I can ride with the >> local club and to do charity centuries on. The Roadeo seems like the >> perfect bike for it, really. BUT..... I was pondering though, instead of >> dropping two grand on a Roadeo frame, what about building a Soma San >> Marcos. If I went the San Marcos route, I would save 1100 bucks on the >> frame, which is not chump change, and be able to put some of the extra >> money towards the parts to switch the Hillborne over to the townie and get >> a good build on the Soma. Both the Sam and the Soma would be 650b in my >> size (51cm), but the Roadeo would be 700 wheels. I would guess that the >> Roadeo would be a lighter bike, all in all. >> >> My question are these: would the San Marcos be a good dedicated "go >> fast" bike, is it any faster feeling than the Sam in that regard? Any >> owners want to share their opinions of the bike? Do you think I should >> just bite the bullet and save for the Roadeo (which sounds like is perfect >> for what I want) and stop thinking of saving money? Anyway, thanks for >> your help. >> >> Ryan >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ajgvanRjyiUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
