Thanks for that feedback Ed. All quite useful. 

On Friday, February 22, 2013 11:29:50 PM UTC+7, dailyrandonneur wrote:
>
> Owen --
>
> We've been very happy with two discs for the riding we do in the east, 
> which are mostly steep & relatively short downhills. In the west I could 
> see using a drum on long multi-mile descents, especially when loaded. In 
> Colorado I had to scrub speed periodically which works fine, but with a 
> drum one could engage it and just ride. 
>
> That said I rode tandem with cantis in the past and would not go back, 
> given the power of discs in wet conditions. Our previous Speedster was set 
> up to take discs, drum and cantis, but we never installed anything but 
> disks. 
>
> The handling of our Java is only slightly slower than our Speedster. Still 
> more responsive than our Cannondale MTB tandem. 
>
> Dwan told me they worked to make the Java handle similar to the Speedster 
> when using comparable size tires. They design with low bottom brackets 
> which helps. We have not used tires bigger than 700x 32 yet so can't say 
> how bigger tires might affect handling. I asked for it to be a little more 
> stable on slow uphills than our Speedster and Dwan achieved that. 
>
> Wheels -- we haven't had an issue with 700c wheels in S&S cases, with 
> tires deflated. 
>
> Ed 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:54:19 PM UTC-5, Salween wrote:
>>
>> Did decide on a custom, coupled Java frame. Couple of questions for Ed. 
>> 1) I saw in your Speedster farewell 
>> pos<http://thedailyrandonneur.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/we-bid-farewell-to-our-tandem-companion-the-co-motion-speedster/>t
>>  
>> that you decided to forgo canti brake studs on the Java. So you guys have 
>> been pretty happy with just the two discs, even for touring?  Considering 
>> the same for the first time, but the Arai sure has been a trusted friend 
>> when needed.  
>> 2) How do you find the handling given that the Java's front geometry is 
>> quite a bit different from Co-Motion's other tandems--and as Jay noted 
>> possibly akin to 32mm tires on a Santana?
>>
>> Thanks, Owen
>>
>>

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