Interesting; thanks. I've owned at least one bike (12-speed-era Fuji
Royale) that handled better with a heavy rear load than unladen. Of course,
there are so many variables here that classification is difficult if not
impossible, but I find such experiences as yours interesting.

The Fargo definitely feels sluggish in acceleration compared to other bikes
I've ridden, this even with Kojaks which are decent tires. OTOH, so did the
Sam Hill, though overall the SH handled better than the Fargo. My other
Rivs feel ideal to me. Ram build to be completed late this week, God
willing, so we will see about that one.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:39 AM, thalasin <thala...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I really wish I could have a long-term, head-to-head ride comparison of
> both bikes.  And maybe I had unrealistic expectations of a touring bike,
> and maybe the fit on the LHT just wasn't right for me.  But I gave it a go
> for 3 years and am giving up the ghost.  I have a Rambouillet, and the ride
> on that bike is wonderful--so based on that experience and what I've read
> from others here, I'm assuming I could expect the same out of an Atlantis.
> I came to hate the LHT and it was absolutely no fun to ride.  It was
> sluggish and every ride felt like a slog.  I've never actually toured on
> it, and others have told me that's where the bike really shines.  In my
> mind, though, if I'm slow and hating it unloaded, I can't imagine putting
> 40 lbs. of stuff on it and it being any more enjoyable.  So, like I said,
> it's probably a combination of factors and quite possibly ignorance on my
> part, but I'm looking for other options.
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:24:20 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Tracy -- asking to add more data to my store: what exactly do you find
>> absent in the ride of the LHT that you find in Rivendells' ride (=
>> comfort?) and handling?
>>
>> I'd love to have a Riv ride mated to my Fargo, whose handling is
>> mediocre, but I put up with the Fargo for its other virtues. (Note one
>> exception: I find that the Fargo does handle heavy rear loads better than
>> the Sam Hill.)
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:19 AM, thalasin <thal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be all in for a budget version of the Atlantis, as that's the bike
>>>> I've always wanted but just can't afford.  I tried to make do with a LHT,
>>>> but I never liked the bike and am getting rid of it.  It's the Rivendell
>>>> ride I'm in search of, so if it actually comes to fruition, I'm in without
>>>> hesitation.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
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