Well at least this encounter with the bike-fit establishment ended well, despite their best efforts :) I give your friend a lot of credit for sticking with what he felt was the best size.
Perhaps what happened here is an instance of a phenomenon Grant Petersen explains in his essay about frame sizes and the typical 'racing' fit that happens to blend so conveniently with three-sizes-fits-all manufacturing: In addition to going against what the store clerks adamantly believe, by choosing the 62cm size your friend was implicitly telling the guys at the bike shop that the bikes THEY ride are too small, and that's got to sting a little, especially if one (the shop clerk) is the expert. Hence you may have unintentionally triggered some defensiveness. Anyway I'm glad your buddy made the right choice. good work! Matt On Saturday, July 27, 2013 5:02:48 AM UTC-4, IanA wrote: > > My friend was in the market for a new bicycle with a budget of around > $800.00. He'd looked at various aluminum mountain bikes and talked to me > about it - he'd mentioned that he'd possibly like a single speed. I > suggested he check out the Surly line of bikes and maybe push his budget a > little and get something he'd really enjoy. Being a Rivendell owner > (recent acquisition) and having followed this list and GP's writings for > the last few years, I have certain ideas about bicycle fit. Not being a > crotch-worrier, I like to start with the largest straddle-able frame and > work from there. A fist-full of seat post, bars around saddle height etc. > Using this formula as a starting basis, I urged my friend to try a 62cm > Crosscheck (a single speed). He loved it. The store was adamant that a > 58cm was he needed, with the saddle jacked up a good two fist-fulls and the > bars well below the saddle height, because "that's where the power is". My > friend test rode the 58, the 60 and then the 62cm and there was no way he > was going back. The steerer tubes on all sizes had been cut quite low, but > on the 62cm, the set-up worked perfectly for my friend. The mechanic was > not happy about this and I was the unwelcome "expert-friend", even though > they made the sale and my friend rode out the store on his new bike. The > one he wanted. > > I suppose we all get locked into ideas and philosophies, but without my > input (as right or wrong as it may be), they would have sized him by > putting the saddle height above his hip bone and made the bars a few inches > below saddle height. This was their fitting method. At the end of the > day, my friend is delighted - he exceeded his budget by $175 and got a very > pretty bicycle that has clearance for 700 x 45 with fenders. Even with my > pretty LL there, I was jealous of his purchase. The shop had never heard > of Rivendell, which made me wonder just how small a corner of the bike > world I must live in, hanging out here on the RBW list. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
