I love those teardrops, there is this company out in Wisconsin
http://www.tinycamper.com/ or one of those cold Northern States that make
the most beautifully appointed trailers interiors with wood paneling and
lots of well thought out appointments. One of these days.

Ah yes the years have a way of smoothing things out, I've been in the
proverbial Dog house a time or two, but I'm learning a happy wife makes a
happy life.

That's very kind but I have about three places to stay in Carmel Valley the
principle are my Parents home.


Best,


~Hugh


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Tom Virgil <tevir...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tent space?  Bedroom space?  No problem. Our kids are adults now and we
> have the big house. I joke to my friends that I have attempted to
> childproof the house, but they keep back getting in.  Most of the time they
> are on their own.  Want to try a teardrop trailer?  We can roll it out on
> the driveway and level it.   It has all of the amenities (built in kitchen,
> and other cool stuff) and sure beats the doghouse when Jahan is furious
> with me for one of my transgressions.  As the years go by, that happens a
> lot less.
> ~Tom
>
> On Monday, November 11, 2013 8:19:04 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tom, is that a offer for tent space?? Just kidding. I so will be
>> back down for more exploring. You can count on that.
>>
>> I presume the Stiletto heels and other paraphernalia were for a photo
>> shoot as we saw a changing tent, and photography gear...I imagine as it's
>> so close to a parking lot and has a beautiful natural setting and  the west
>> setting sun to help get just the right light it must be popular. It was
>> surreal though to pop out of the canyon and see all this stuff strewn
>> asunder as if it was a crime scene. And yes it makes me laugh. Thanks for
>> reminding me.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Tom Virgil <tevi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just to keep things in good spirits, it is the image of the stiletto
>>> heeled, um, shoes.  It's not the first time I have seen something like this
>>> in the "hood".  I don't know what it is that attracts them here.
>>>
>>> That being said, thanks for diverting the ride to play in my "back
>>> yard".  I am very fond of those areas for biking and walking my dog, Louie.
>>>  Pardee Construction will continue to encroach on the "graded plain" area
>>> with their new development and push out the Alejandro's, but the Gonzales
>>> itself is part of the Black Mountain Preserve and is reasonably protected.
>>>  Remember the "Sword Way"  sign"?  That goes for about a 1/2 mile trip up
>>> the canyon to a trail head that is about one mile from my driveway.  You
>>> guys are welcome to come and explore further from my home.
>>>
>>> ~Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:33:31 PM UTC-8, Tom Virgil wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK, that's not the link I was thinking of and my comments in passing.
>>>>  In the interest of keeping this a Rivendell bicycle forum, I'll let go of
>>>> it, but I am still laughing about it.  The nerve of some people.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:19:57 PM UTC-8, Tom Virgil wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Although I caught but a part of it, I am still enjoying the memory of
>>>>> this ride.  This is the second time I have been out on a Hugh inspired and
>>>>> organized ride.  Hugh has a talent for choosing time, location, and 
>>>>> routes,
>>>>> and I really appreciate him setting this up.  Curtis and Mike are tops as
>>>>> fellow riders; it was my second time one with them as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> The best exclamation of the ride (from Hugh): "There will be more!".
>>>>>
>>>>> I am still LOL at 
>>>>> this<http://www.flickr.com//photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157637527430185/show/>.
>>>>>  You guys probably think I am cynical, but I'll stop here and go no 
>>>>> further.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:01:43 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It happened again another awesome SoCal Riv ride...Met Curtis and
>>>>>> Mike in Del Mar after I dropped off the Atlantis Frame and Fork with Mr.
>>>>>> Allen Wanta in Carlsbad for additional braze on's and a fresh coat of
>>>>>> paint, had to tear my self away as talking bike stuff can make me lose
>>>>>> track of time and space, oh right I did lose some time! Was about half 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> hour late to the meet up fortunately I have one of those modern devices 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> gave Curtis a heads up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We left the Del Martians behind and traveled South toward Torrey
>>>>>> Pines State Beach and made a turn East along Carmel Valley Rd skirting 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Torrey Pines Preserve lagoon fed by Penaquitos Creek. Just before
>>>>>> Interstate 5 we make a right onto Old Sorrento Valley Rd which 
>>>>>> transitions
>>>>>> into Sorrento Valley Rd, we made a pit stop at Cycle Quest tucked into a
>>>>>> strip mall in the shadow of Interstate 5 need to go back and really check
>>>>>> the place out, you can see the mixed terrain vibe is growing as this shop
>>>>>> had Surly and Salsa among other brands. I think we were all anxious to be
>>>>>> free of automotive traffic so we rolled over the rail road tracks up
>>>>>> Sorrento Valley Blvd and crossed into the Western edge of Penasquitos
>>>>>> Canyon making our way over a dry water course and had ridden no more 
>>>>>> than a
>>>>>> couple of miles before we spotted a group from the San Diego Randonneurs
>>>>>> travelling West...Mike chatted about their web site and future rides and
>>>>>> Randonneur bikes, very nice fellows all atop 29ers. We made our way up 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> canyon and okay about this time I was in bliss smooth fire road and 
>>>>>> single
>>>>>> track oh and floating over the rough patches were the remounted Hetres
>>>>>> hooray for balloon tires.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Continuing on we paused at the Penasquitos water falls and ook in
>>>>>> views of the surprising amount of water, but we had a meet up with our
>>>>>> fellow Riv rider Tom Virgil so we picked up the pace and giddily glided 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the Eastern edge of the Preserve at Black Mountain Rd. From here we 
>>>>>> climbed
>>>>>> North up to Carmel Valley Rd  turned left West toward Camino Del Sur and
>>>>>> Tom, who had camera phone in hand.and his luxurious Sam Hillborne with
>>>>>> flipped Albatross bars (unfortunately I didn't get any pictures of Tom's
>>>>>> Sam, on the next one) which has me thinking now. We had a brief chat and
>>>>>> Tom took us into new territory!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At a fair clip riding West down Carmel Valley Rd we turned right on
>>>>>> to Lopelia Meadow Pl past new model homes and a Danger no
>>>>>> pedestrians sign with orange barrier fencing http://www.flickr.com/
>>>>>> photos/pedalpusher61/10785042006/in/set-72157637527430185 (hey it
>>>>>> didn't say no bicyclists) before us was a surreal graded plain with
>>>>>> farming discards, tomato stakes, graffiti-ed trailer and massive sewer
>>>>>> section also adorned with graffiti. We pressed on for our second canyon
>>>>>> "Gonzales Canyon" which we dropped into and the rest of the world melted
>>>>>> away...more smooth single track with undulating sections as the trail 
>>>>>> traced
>>>>>> a line from canyon floor to it's sloping sides. We paused often both
>>>>>> to take in the solitude and route suggestions from Tom...at a point he
>>>>>> mentioned a 45% climb and I must say I was skeptical...wrong we all 
>>>>>> fsound
>>>>>> our LCG as we topped out of the Canyon at it's South Western terminus at
>>>>>> Torrey Pines Public Park on the back side of Torrey Pine High School.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We lost Tom to family obligations and we all thanked him for showing
>>>>>> us a new playground as this area has a network of fire roads and trails
>>>>>> which run for miles upon miles in nearly every direction, more to 
>>>>>> explore.
>>>>>> Can't thank Tom enough he's a wonderful man and great riding partner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The three of us rode down to El Camino Real heading North and picked
>>>>>> up our third dirt section near Via Del Valle Rd (This is near
>>>>>> the Equestrian Center Tom spoke of thanks to Tom we avoided any nasty 
>>>>>> horse
>>>>>> people) we entered the San Dieguito River Park Lagoon trail and rode 
>>>>>> along
>>>>>> the edge of the serene waters of the lagoon with blue sky and
>>>>>> soft wispy clouds above and the Del Mar Fair Grounds across the
>>>>>> lagoon to our right. Exiting the trail at Camino Del Mar at River Mouth 
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> headed North onto Hwy 101 to Solana Beach and Pizza Port for 
>>>>>> refreshments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I always experience a bit of sadness as a great ride comes to it's
>>>>>> end but in the end was completely satisfied with the ride and so pleased
>>>>>> with the company as Curtis, Mike and Tom are great fellows to ride with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are my set of pictures to prove that it indeed happened.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157637527
>>>>>> 430185/show/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~Hugh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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