Clickstick is a nice option if you want a kickstand but not often enough to install one...
[image: Inline image 1] On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Ron Mc <bulldog...@gmail.com> wrote: > double kickstand with a loaded bike > > On Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:23:19 AM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: >> >> If you go on a long enough bike tour, you end up in a lot of places >> where there aren't any trees. The first time I rode across the US, I >> didn't have a kickstand on my bike, and my riding partner had one. >> Those hundreds of miles across the prairies, where Hans could just >> leave his bike on the kickstand and I had to find somewhere to lay >> mine down... I had a kickstand put on in Minnesota. At least, I think >> it was Minnesota, might have been as soon as Minot, North Dakota. Now >> when I tour, I use the kickstand a dozen times a day. They are so >> great. >> >> YMMV. >> >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:21 PM, rob markwardt <robm...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> > I'm with you all the way except for ponchos, twine, and kickstands. I >> can't >> > remember once in my whole life where I wished I'd had a kickstand. >> Maybe if >> > I lived where there weren't any trees? >> > >> > Rob Markwardt >> > in the forest of WA >> > >> > >> > On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:05:09 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: >> >> >> >> Thought hearing from you all would make an interesting thread. >> >> I have been enjoying my Sam for a long time now. >> >> I call these RBW ideas because that is where I first heard about them >> >> (thought I know they have been around for years, just not embraced so >> much >> >> these days). I was an alu/composite race bike kinda rider until I >> started to >> >> fear carbon failures and wanted to look into an all metal bike. >> >> >> >> I'll start: >> >> >> >> RBW ideas that worked for me: >> >> 1. Wider tires. This has made a huge diff for my quality of riding. I >> used >> >> to own a typical race bike with 700 x 25, 120psi tires. >> >> It was great to ride, but hard to handle as it banged and bounced and >> >> tires got yanked around on gravelly, busted up shoulders. Not to >> mention the >> >> fear of getting the narrow tires caught in longitudinal road cracks. >> >> Got my Rivendell bikes and have used 32mm-40mm ~55psi tires on them >> and >> >> what a difference. >> >> No more bike bouncing. Slight rumbling and I am through the rough road >> >> parts. Tires stay on their straight course through the bad patches and >> I >> >> feel so much safer. Cush to boot. Very stable handling. >> >> I cannot see myself ever going back to anything narrower than 32mm >> wide >> >> tires. They seem dangerous to me now. >> >> 2. Fenders. I never woulda dreamed of putting these on a bike in the >> past. >> >> But now I don't see riding without them making any sense to me. It is >> just >> >> good to be prepared and not have to worry about grunging up the bike >> with >> >> the street scum. They look great to boot, and are standard equipment >> on my >> >> bikes. I love the ultra coverage of the longboards. >> >> 3. Leather saddles. No more butt pain. yay! What a smooth surface to >> sit >> >> on. I did have a little break in for a coupla weeks, but another dab >> o' >> >> proofhide broke her in and now its great. >> >> 4. Steel bike/lugs/cream headtubes/metal head badges. Such a stable >> ride, >> >> beautiful to look at, and no worries about "did I tension that bolt >> 1nM too >> >> far?". Feels good to not have to wonder about failures. The lugs and >> paint >> >> jobs are intoxicating. >> >> 5. Smaller chainrings/bigger cassettes/Triples. Healthiest pedaling I >> have >> >> ever felt in my legs. The Sugino toothcounts work great for my neck of >> the >> >> woods. I would never want to go back to 39-52 or 30-40-54 cranks >> again. And, >> >> I have discovered that compact cranksets aren't for me. I love >> triples. >> >> 6. Big Saddle bags. I love that I can carry lunch, repair kits/tools >> and a >> >> jacket in my Carradice, etc. So convenient. No more wondering how will >> I fit >> >> everything into my small nylon wedge. >> >> 7. Cotton tape/twine and shellac. I balked at the idea as just taking >> >> things too far. But when my Sam arrived with it, it just looked so >> beautiful >> >> and natural and much better than electrical tape. Its fun to do, too! >> >> 8. Bar end shifters. At first I thought that it was ridiculous not to >> have >> >> the convenience of brifters on a bike. But when I got my first Rivbike >> with >> >> bar ends, it was love at first shift. Just makes it so much more fun >> to play >> >> with those things than brifting. I think it also encourages your hands >> to >> >> move around more on the bars and I think that helps keep the numbness >> at >> >> bay. A quiet friction shift is a very satisfying sensation. And >> trimming is >> >> fun, too. >> >> 9. Platform pedals/ditching the click-ins. I started using MKS Touring >> >> pedals and cannot see myself ever going back to click ins. It is so >> nice to >> >> be able to move the foot around and to just hop off the bike and walk >> >> normally and not feel weird in public duck walking. Starting up at >> green >> >> lights, all I have to do is just stand on the pedal and go. I don't >> have to >> >> fumble across the intersection anymore to click in. And think of all >> that >> >> cash I save by not having to buy expensive click in shoes and >> cleats/pedals. >> >> 10. Kickstands. Having previously viewed these as bike anchors, I >> started >> >> realizing it just makes things sooooooo much easier when parking the >> bike in >> >> the garage, hopping off the bike for breaks/taking pictures, and they >> are >> >> just fun to install and look at. I love the rat-at-at-at-at sound the >> >> Pletscher makes when it is flipped. >> >> 11. 650b. At first I thought: "........why?......". And then: "Aw, >> man! >> >> Now I am forced into getting these smaller wheels if I want a >> Rivendell. Why >> >> is this guy messing around with these bikes like this?". But the >> clearance >> >> allows me to enjoy the convenience of fenders and safety and cush of >> wide >> >> tires. >> >> 12. Ponchos. Air circulates. Less sweating under cover. >> >> 13. Wool. In summer, any material will be drenched and sticking to my >> >> skin. But come seasons of 75 degrees and less, the wool dries out so >> quickly >> >> that things don't stick anymore. A Nice feeling to ride off after a >> break - >> >> dry and warm, rather than clammy and chilled by the breeze. >> >> 14. Flat ramps drop bar setups. Very comfy. Stem extension in line >> with >> >> bar ramps and brake levers is just pretty to look at, too. >> >> >> >> What doesn't work for me: >> >> 1. High bars. While riding drops up high on a Technomic is tops, my >> body >> >> likes drop bars below saddle, or else sitting bolt upright with Albas. >> That >> >> in-between, high drops, where you are still leaning forward just kills >> my >> >> lower back. I've either gotta be straight-up, or bars below saddle. >> Not in >> >> between. Took a year to figure out it wasn't me or the bike, just the >> >> position that was killing me. Be glad if it works for you. Riding >> drops up >> >> high on a Technomic is a great experience if your back can take it! >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an >> > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> -- >> -- Anne Paulson >> >> It isn't a contest. 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