Agree, a custom Riv is currently at $3500. When you look at other custom 
builders, that's pretty much in the middle. On the high end, you can  wait 
5+ years and get yourself a Vanilla or Richard Sachs and pay whatever the 
going rate is at the time your name is called, I believe right now they're 
both in the $5K to $5.5k range. There are other high end builders like 
Brent Steelman who is charging about the same. A little lower, you can find 
Bruce Gordon at about $4k, Tom Kellogg at about $3k-$4k depending on model 
and material. On the low end, Roland Della Santa is still at about $2k or 
so. Quite a bargain if that's what you want!
 
Similarly, you can get custom carbon in the same price range from Crumpton, 
Parlee and Calfee. I believe all three offer an "adventure" version that 
allows fatter tires (700x32/35 or even 650b) and fenders!
 
However, the thing with getting a custom Rivendell is you're buying not 
just a beautiful custom steel frame, but their philosophy.  You're getting 
a Grant-designed bike with his specific geometry for YOU. Yes, others can 
make a "sport-touring" bike, but it won't necessarily ride like a 
custom Riv. If you want a custom Riv, then that's what you get! Good Luck!
 

On Monday, December 16, 2013 7:51:39 AM UTC-8, Ryan wrote:

>  Considering that Carbon race bikes with top-of-the line SRAM or Campy or 
> Shimano can tip 5 figures (Gulp!) in Canada (Specialized, 
> Cervelo,Scott...etc) , Rivs are still a bargain
>  
> for comparison, though:
> 1997 Riv all-rounder $1325 w cream headtube and my name + Phil BB and 
> Tange Rollerball installed  - a tick over $1500 US
> 2001 Riv road custom - $2100 (which included the Chris King no-logo 
> headset...I just missed the $1800 former price when I ordered the bike in 
> Aug 2000)...so 2.2K or so with the installed Phil BB
> Glad I got them when I did. 
> I don't think that their current prices are excessive considering their 
> durability and classic good looks
>  
> Ryan in Winnipeg
> On Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:28:15 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> I was using the time between sets of push ups (too yucky out to pedal 
>> today) and cruising the RBW web site this morning. Looking at the 
>> framesets, I see where Atlantis is now 2,300 F.O.B. origin. When I 
>> bought my Ram in late 2006, it was 1,350 and the Atlantis was only 
>> $1,400.  Using the AIER cost of living calculator, 1400 in 2006 is worth 
>> 1,618 today, so frames have gone up significantly more than the prices 
>> of everyday goods as a whole. This is not to say they cost too much now, 
>> just a realization that those of us who were fortunate enough to get RBW 
>> bikes back then got really good deals on really good bikes. 
>>
>> Bruce 
>>
>

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