Patrick,

If I understand your issue with bounce correctly, it can most likely be 
addressed by adding more air regardless of how wide the tire is. I think 
you have written about finding that out with your current tires (were too 
bouncy, added air, now fine). So I doubt very much that bounce issues limit 
you to nothing larger than 2.1" tires.

I think the question for you is how a wider tire would benefit you, and are 
those benefits great enough to induce you to get a bike that fits wider 
tires.
One approach to choosing tire width is to get a big enough tire to avoid 
pinch flats with pressures as low as you want to use. Since you already 
know how soft you want your tires because of bounce (or will soon with some 
iteration), if you are not getting pinch flats then your tires are big 
enough by that line reasoning.
Another advantage of bigger tires is that they roll over larger obstacles 
more easily. Wider tires are also taller tires, and so are larger radius 
tires, and larger radius wheels are less effected by obstructions (like 
rocks for instance). I think Ann wrote about this when she said Knards were 
less bouncy than more normal tires. "They just soak up the bumps" (or 
something close to that). If that is what you are interested in, I think 
you need to try a fat bike on the kind of terrain you like to find out if 
its the thing for you. I doubt that the difference between a 2.1 tire and a 
2.35 tire amounts to much in this respect, but I don't use tires wider than 
about 2" so what do I know.

On Sunday, January 5, 2014 2:24:21 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> The geometry charts are interesting. The two smaller sizes list 26 x 2.35" 
> as the max tire, but they didn't carry that MTB sizing over to the 700, 
> which has a max of 55cm (actual, I presume). So, 2.25 = 57 mm nominal size, 
> thus presumably smaller actual size so it just physically fits. But then 
> you account for clearance of mud and rocks and duff on the trail 2.1 is the 
> practicable clearance (I had a long conversation with Kevin at Riv. to 
> understand this.). And the tightest spot is the width of the chain stays, 
> so even the potential allure of 650b conversion doesn't help. Of course, 
> larger than 2.1 may be more bounce than I can handle anyway, so it may all 
> be academic for me.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, January 4, 2014 1:27:31 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> My selfish motivation is to get the fattest tire I can on my existing 
>> Hunqapillar, which is a fancy paint (aka first generation) Hunqapillar, 
>> which apparently has less clearance than the newer, green Hunqas.
>>
>> With the 2.1ā€ Smart Sams I just put on I have a solid amount of 
>> clearance, and I would love to see how much clearance there is with 29 x 
>> 2.25ā€ Smart Sams on a first gen Hunqa. I’d also love to see how much more 
>> clearance the new Hunqas have.
>>
>> Would someone mind taking some clearance shots of the three clearance 
>> spots please?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
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>>  
>>

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