As I re-read Patrick's words, it sounds to me like he's using the 
difference between right and wrong as a way to find God, not using God to 
be told the difference between right and wrong. 
As an atheist, I completely agree with his approach; I just bleeped over 
all the God parts. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com


On Saturday, January 25, 2014 10:32:29 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
>
> Learn to realize us atheists aren't any different in recognizing false 
> logic.... Don't need space Santa to tell me right from wrong. 
> On Jan 25, 2014 9:23 PM, "Deacon Patrick" <lamon...@mac.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> "No such thing, sweetheart. You never have to think about anything. But 
>> you may want to choose to." Grin.
>>
>> Mindfulness, logic, and reason are among the weapons that fight 
>> temptation. Learn to recognize false logic and you have learned how to 
>> recognize sin (since sin doesn't have the truth to work with, it's only 
>> option is false logic). Learn logic and reason and you are on the path to 
>> understanding God's Natural Law and thus knowing a slice of the mind of 
>> God. God being infinite, a slice is all I can handle. Grin. 
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 7:16:25 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:
>>>
>>> Or as my daughters have been known to ask me "is this one of those 
>>> things we have to think about....?" I thought there might be a grin there!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Absolutely, Robert. I should have put a "Grin." after my "Mindfull ... 
>>>> what?" as that is a joke I give my kids a hard time with quite often. Grin.
>>>>
>>>> With abandon,
>>>>  Patrick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 3:18:01 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Patrick, when Chris wrote about living in the moment and looking with 
>>>>> clear eyes and an open heart, he was describing a fundamental aspect of 
>>>>> Buddhism that is often referred to as mindfulness. The hope is to be 
>>>>> aware 
>>>>> of what is going on within us and all around us; conscious of presence, 
>>>>> thoughts and actions. The act of breathing is often used to focus our 
>>>>> mind, 
>>>>> and  I think we could have an interesting conversation about how riding a 
>>>>> bike can clear and focus your mind as well. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mindfull ... what?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With abandon,
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:43:08 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bosco Bars, mindfulness, Bhagavad Gita, St Ignatius, and a touching 
>>>>>>> reminder of why it all matters. Thank you Hugh. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Eunice Chang <sleep...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your words, Hugh. There is no easy way to deal with 
>>>>>>>> this, but doing what you love always seems to be the right thing to 
>>>>>>>> do. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If Seth was in heaven, I suspect it'd look like this:
>>>>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/7091026041/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Eunice
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:35:13 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, 
>>>>>>>>> parts or RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't 
>>>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>>>> enough?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
>>>>>>>>> here<http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/>
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~Hugh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must 
>>>>>>>>> keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>
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