As I re-read Patrick's words, it sounds to me like he's using the difference between right and wrong as a way to find God, not using God to be told the difference between right and wrong. As an atheist, I completely agree with his approach; I just bleeped over all the God parts.
Philip www.biketinker.com On Saturday, January 25, 2014 10:32:29 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote: > > Learn to realize us atheists aren't any different in recognizing false > logic.... Don't need space Santa to tell me right from wrong. > On Jan 25, 2014 9:23 PM, "Deacon Patrick" <lamon...@mac.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> "No such thing, sweetheart. You never have to think about anything. But >> you may want to choose to." Grin. >> >> Mindfulness, logic, and reason are among the weapons that fight >> temptation. Learn to recognize false logic and you have learned how to >> recognize sin (since sin doesn't have the truth to work with, it's only >> option is false logic). Learn logic and reason and you are on the path to >> understanding God's Natural Law and thus knowing a slice of the mind of >> God. God being infinite, a slice is all I can handle. Grin. >> >> With abandon, >> Patrick >> >> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 7:16:25 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote: >>> >>> Or as my daughters have been known to ask me "is this one of those >>> things we have to think about....?" I thought there might be a grin there! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Absolutely, Robert. I should have put a "Grin." after my "Mindfull ... >>>> what?" as that is a joke I give my kids a hard time with quite often. Grin. >>>> >>>> With abandon, >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 3:18:01 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote: >>>> >>>>> Patrick, when Chris wrote about living in the moment and looking with >>>>> clear eyes and an open heart, he was describing a fundamental aspect of >>>>> Buddhism that is often referred to as mindfulness. The hope is to be >>>>> aware >>>>> of what is going on within us and all around us; conscious of presence, >>>>> thoughts and actions. The act of breathing is often used to focus our >>>>> mind, >>>>> and I think we could have an interesting conversation about how riding a >>>>> bike can clear and focus your mind as well. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mindfull ... what? >>>>>> >>>>>> With abandon, >>>>>> Patrick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:43:08 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Bosco Bars, mindfulness, Bhagavad Gita, St Ignatius, and a touching >>>>>>> reminder of why it all matters. Thank you Hugh. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Eunice Chang <sleep...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for your words, Hugh. There is no easy way to deal with >>>>>>>> this, but doing what you love always seems to be the right thing to >>>>>>>> do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If Seth was in heaven, I suspect it'd look like this: >>>>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/7091026041/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Eunice >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:35:13 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, >>>>>>>>> parts or RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> enough? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So read a rambling report about a recent ramble >>>>>>>>> here<http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~Hugh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. 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