The Pacer/LHT/Cross-check frames from Surly are functionally similar to several Riv models, past and present. Beyond that, the Surly and Riv offerings don't have much overlap. Riv has its niche, which has some pretty clear boundaries. Meanwhile, Surly has spent most of its history giving us tough, no-frills classic designs (like Rivendell minus the fanciness), OR types of bikes that were entirely new to most of us at the time (e.g. 1x1, Karate Monkey, Big Dummy, Pugsley/Moonlander, Krampus/ECR).
Both companies have inspired competitors and shameless copycats to come out of the woodwork, so I don't think we need more of that. We'll be better off if both companies do what they do best without trying to duplicate each other. I dare say that Riv would do a pretty mediocre job trying to be "the lugged steel version of Surly", and we really don't need Surly to focus on being the "low-budget Rivendell alternative". If a person wants an ECR, why not buy an ECR and reward the creativity and boldness of Surly in inventing such a thing? On Sunday, February 16, 2014 7:38:54 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > With respect, that makes as much sense as saying "Surly makes the Long > Haul Trucker. That's close enough so there is no need for the Atlantis > because you can do everything on the LHT you can do on the Atlantis." Surly > HAS to be good enough because there isn't a Riv. 29er+. Given the choice, > I'd certainly take the Riv. I do love the G.O. as the name for it (as in go > anywhere, and Gimli Oakenshield -- making the wild leap that is his last > name). Grin. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Sunday, February 16, 2014 4:37:37 AM UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote: >> >> Sometimes close enough is good enough. What could you do on the >> hypothetical Riv that you couldn't do on the ECR? >> >> Eric "taking my new Krampus out for its first ride in about an hour" Daume >> Dublin, OH >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Clayton <treef...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> I have a serious drool going over the Surly ECR 29+ off road camping >>> bike. Now, if Rivendell made such a bike, I would absolutely have to sell >>> everything I own and get one. Hint Hint Grant? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
