I have been seriously considering building a Churchill.  It has the same
turret as the Cromwell in certain variants.  Of course that's after I get
off my butt and finish the M113 and the KV-2...:)  Just bought a motorcycle
last weekend so I've been working on it instead.

Derek

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Dave D. <degeck...@optonline.net> wrote:

> **
> Hey Buck,
>
> Steve told you that be cause that's Steve's wry sense of humor flowing
> thru... you are right, he did build the Cromwell, and  there's the
> slightest chance that he might want to be the only one to have one on the
> battle field on some level... BUT, you will find that Steve can be the most
> helpful person within this hobby.  And I'd bet that he'd be more than happy
> to see you build it, and would provide you with all sorts of help doing it.
>
> Why would he call the very tank he chose to build "butt ugly"?!! (two t's
> , Steve-LOL).  He'd be the first to tell you to go build it, and give you
> his blessings.  He just took the opportunity to have alittle fun.
>
> Dave D.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Buck Cronk <buckcr...@gmail.com>
> *To:* rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [TANKS] Re: Cromwell Tank
>
> I disagree. Although in real combat the Cromwell's boxy design wouldn't
> have deflected shells as easily, in paintball combat it doesn't matter
> much, right? Am I right, also, in thinking that it's easier to make a boxy
> design, easier when using welded steel (something I am fairly good at),
> rather than making a mold/plug, buying fiberglassing material, and learning
> how to fiberglass just to have a few curves in there? I have the steel and
> mostly everything else I need. I think the Cromwell was actually a pretty
> cool tank, or at least some variants of it. AND WOULD I BE CORRECT IN
> ASSUMING THAT YOU YOURSELF MADE ONE OF THESE??? Excuse me if I'm wrong, but
> I thought I saw a tank with your name on it on the website.... Oh, well. No
> use to argue. Please don't tell me my tank is ugly, because it's not. And
> maybe someday we'll meet in combat and I'll score a few hits against you,
> regardless of how ugly my tank is to you. It's a simple design that's
> actually pretty cool, I think.
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:00 AM, TyngTech <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You don't want to do a Cromwell!  That's one but ugly tank...   You'll be
>> the source of derision till the end of time.
>>
>> Function does follow form after all.  You need to do a nice curvy,
>> streamlined design for your first tank.
>>
>> Steve "There Can Only Be One" Tyng   ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 2, 2012 8:55:03 PM UTC-4, Buck wrote:
>>>
>>> I have done some thinking. I've got it in my head that it would be a
>>> good idea to use the T34/85 I am building out of plywood as a source of
>>> experience and as a parts tester. I may not even bother to finish the
>>> turret, since it has so many angles and curves that it wouldn't be worth
>>> the trouble to buy fiberglassing material (probably the best choice if I
>>> were to make a turret). I plan to just make sure the systems can fit inside
>>> it--as well as inside the Cromwell that I'm planning.
>>>
>>> I selected the Cromwell because it has the same number of road wheels as
>>> the T34/85, as well as the same basic idea for wheel configuration. In
>>> other words, if you look at pictures of both, as I did, the drive wheels,
>>> idlers, and bogies all appear to be in the same positions and the same size
>>> relative to the track.
>>>
>>> Another reason to choose the Cromwell was its boxy shape. Both turret
>>> and hull have no curves, and at least some tanks didn't even have the
>>> curved fenders carried by many other Cromwells.
>>>
>>> All this means I can replicate the Cromwell more accurately. The
>>> T34/85's turret wouldn't look good made with plywood, steel, or other
>>> materials that aren't easily shaped, but probably could only be made with a
>>> mold or plug and fiberglass or plastic. The Cromwell is probably a better
>>> choice for beginners unaccustomed to fiberglass or plastic.
>>>
>>> Not only this, I plan to build the Cromwell out of sheet metal. I want
>>> it tough. I just need to figure out how to attach sections to each other so
>>> they can be easily removed, preferably not using bolts. I was thinking pins
>>> or just a system of sliding them on and off. Maybe even hinges? Anyway,
>>> what I don't want taken apart I can weld. I will be looking for larger
>>> motors and thinking about using a KCM for turret rotation. Yeah, a drive
>>> motor for rotating a heavy metal turret. I just don't know about rust...
>>> I'll figure something out. Aluminum would be a good choice, but is harder
>>> to work with and more expensive here.
>>>
>>> I'll try a roller chain track system, directly welding steel onto the
>>> chain.
>>>
>>> All this after completing and testing all systems in the T34/85, which
>>> may get finished someday.
>>>
>>> Questions/comments/advice?
>>>
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