When we were creating these examples, Examples Group 2 asked the editor of
RDA about whether to include the parenthetical qualifiers, and we were
instructed not to include the parenthetical qualifiers found in
designators in Appendix J. The JSC review of these examples also did not
result in asking that the full designator with qualifier be used in the
examples.
I think that this was probably because each example was situated in a
chapter of RDA (25-28) that was specific to whether the example was a
related work, expression, manifestation, or item, so that the qualifier
for the relationship designator was not needed in the context of the
example. And also probably because the main point of the examples in
chapters 25-28 was not to illustrate the use of relationship designators,
but the recording of identifiers, authorized access points, and
descriptions.
Anyhow, just wanted to let folks know that the omission of the
parenthetical was not accidental, it was done with consultation of the
editor.
Adam Schiff
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2011, Kuhagen, Judith wrote:
The parenthetical expression is part of the relationship designator. The
second paragraph of RDA J.1 shows the
parenthetical information as part of the term in italics. The terms in the
list in J.2+ include the parenthetical
information in bold and in italic with the other words in each designator.
Some of the relationships can exist at
different levels of the Group 1 entities. During the development of RDA, some
of the constituencies thought it was
important to include that specific information about which Group 1 entity in
the relationship designator.
If you are using MARC fields and indicators, the MARC display constants are not
as precise as the appendix J terms
(e.g., 780 00).
I'll report the RDA examples for modification or addition of explanation about
encoding schema used.
Judy Kuhagen
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On
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Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 9:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA appendix J relationship designations
I suppose the only authoritative information can come from the JSC, but I
always assumed it makes no sense to
display (work) or (expression) as part of the relationship designator. I
assume that (work) in appendix J means
?insert the identifier, authorized access point or structured description of
the related work here?. Same for
(expression). In the examples in 25.1, it says ?Continues: Arctic & Antarctic
regions = ISSN 1043-7479?, and so on,
not ?Continues (work): Arctic & Antarctic regions = ISSN 1043-7479?. So (work)
and (expression) are not intrinsic
parts of the relationship designators. It would be nice if J.1 made that clear.
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Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 18:56
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Subject: [RDA-L] RDA appendix J relationship designations
I think this may be a problem, but I?m hoping someone will be able to explain
why it is not:
Example:
MARC 21 780 2nd indicator values and related display constant:
0 = Continues:
RDA appendix J relationship designators:
continues (work)
continues (expression)
RDA relationship designators specify associated FRBR group 1 entities. MARC 21
780/785 2nd indicator values do not.
Of course, if ?(work)? and ?(expression)? are not intrinsic parts of the RDA
relationship designators, then the
problem disappears.
Any insights, preferably authoritative?
Ed Jones
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