Well that raises another problem that I see if both associated place and
location of conference are to be recorded in the same subfield in 370.
When you have a conference that includes both elements, it is not clear
which element is which. For example, when two different unrelated
conference have the same name, one of the possible additions is associated
place, as illustrated by the examples in 11.13.1.3:
Governors Conference on Aging (Ariz.)
Governors Conference on Aging (Fla.)
Now when you have a specific instance of one of these conferences, such as
the example at 11.13.1.8:
Governors Conference on Aging (Fla.) (3rd : 1992 : Tallahassee, Fla.)
both "Fla." and "Tallahassee, Fla." would have to be recorded in 370 $e:
111 2# $a Governors Conference on Aging (Fla.) $n (3rd : $d 1992 : $c
Tallahassee, Fla.)
370 ## $e Fla. $e Tallahassee, Fla.
Therefore, it's not clear at all from the coding in 370 which element is
which and what goes where. If you were trying to assemble an access point
on the fly, the machine couldn't do it. In situations where a conference
was held in two or more location, each location would be recorded in 370
$e, as in:
111 2# $a Symposium on Breeding and Machine Harvesting of Rubus and Ribes
$d (1976 : $c East Malling, England; Dundee, Scotland)
370 ## $e East Malling, England $e Dundee, Scotland
How is a machine supposed to be able to tell the difference between the
first example with two subfield $e's and the second?
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Principal Cataloger
University of Washington Libraries
Box 352900
Seattle, WA 98195-2900
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Hideyuki Morimoto wrote:
JSC document entitled "Examples of full RDA records (JSC). Authority records"
(http://www.rdatoolkit.org/sites/default/files/examples_of_rda_authority_records_0.pdf)
carries on p. 38 the example of the 21st Olympic Winter Games:
111 2# $a Olympic Winter Games $n (21st : $d 2010 : $c Vancouver,
B.C.)
370 ## $c Canada $e Vancouver, B.C.
with "Vancouver, B.C." entered under 370-$e rather than 370-$f.
PCC document entitled "MARC 21 encoding to accommodate new RDA elements 046
and 3XX in NARs and SARs" (rev., May 2012)
(http://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/rda/PCC%20RDA%20guidelines/RDA%20in%20NARs-SARs_PCC.pdf)
recommends on p. 2:
370: $e Location of conference (place of residence/
headquarters): 11.3.2
$f Location of conference (other associated place):
11.3.2
LC's training material "RDA special topics. Conferences : guidelines for best
practice" prepared by Ms. Crist?n (update, July 2012)
(http://www.loc.gov/aba/rda/source/special_topics_conferences.ppt) also
carries on slide 41:
- Record the location of a conference in 370 $e
- Record a country that is associated with a conference, in
370 $c
- Record any other place that is associated with a conference,
in 370 $f
This coding convention has been followed, for instance, in:
010 __ |a n 2012043969
111 2_ |a Asia Pacific Transportation Development Conference
|n (9th : |d 2012 : |c Chongqing, China)
370 __ |e Chongqing, China
010 __ |a nb2012020456
111 2_ |a ICHIT (Conference) |n (6th : |d 2012 :
|c Taejo(breve)n-si, Korea)
370 __ |c Korea |e Taejon-shi, Korea
["Taejon-shi" under field 370 should instead read
"Taejo(breve)n-si" with a breve but with no "h",
as per LCCN n 82043279 .]
010 __ |a no2011150529
111 2_ |a Jiang Zhongzheng ri ji yu Minguo shi yan jiu guo ji
xue shu tao lun hui |d (2010 : |c Taipei, Taiwan)
370 __ |e Taipei, Taiwan
etc.
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Adam L. Schiff wrote:
FYI, I sent the following email to the Network Development and MARC
Standards Office at LC:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 16:57:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adam L. Schiff <asch...@u.washington.edu>
To: nd...@loc.gov
Subject: Location of Conference and MARC Authority 370
NDMSO,
According the RDA to MARC Authority Mapping found in the RDA Toolkit, the
element Location of Conference, Etc. (RDA 11.3.2) maps to 370 subfield $f
(Other associated place).
However, there is nothing in the MARC documentation that shows this. 370
$f has the following definition:
Other or additional town, city, province, state, and/or country associated
with persons, corporate bodies, families, works, and expressions. Dates
associated with other place are recorded in subfields $s (Start period) and
$t (End period).
It would be very helpful to catalogers if the documentation specified that
$f is used for the location of a conference. Examples could be taken from
RDA 11.3.2 and 11.13.1.8:
111 2# $a Clambake Conference on the Nature and Source of Human Error $n
(1st : $d 1980 : $c Columbia Falls, Me.)
370 ## $f Columbia Falls, Me.
----
111 2# $a Olympic Winter Games $n (21st : $d 2010 : $c Vancouver, B.C.)
370 ## $f Vancouver, B.C.
----
111 2# $a Symposium on Breeding and Machine Harvesting of Rubus and Ribes
$d (1976 : $c East Malling, England; Dundee, Scotland)
370 ## $f East Malling, England $f Dundee Scotland
----
111 2# $a Governor's Conference on Aging (Fla.) $n (3rd : $d 1992 : $c
Tallahassee, Fla.)
370 ## $e Fla. $f Tallahassee, Fla.
Thanks,
Adam Schiff
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Adam L. Schiff
Principal Cataloger
University of Washington Libraries
Box 352900
Seattle, WA 98195-2900
(206) 543-8409
(206) 685-8782 fax
asch...@u.washington.edu
http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff
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