Janet Davis [Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:11 AM] said:

Not an answer, sorry, but we've recently come across a very similar issue
with statements of responsibility.  
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I agree with Janet's reasoning:
- 2.4.2.2: "Take statements of responsibility relating to title proper from
the following sources (in order of preference): a) the same source as the
title proper (see 2.3.2.2)"

- Since a Statement of Responsibility Relating to Title Proper is provided
for these particular persons on the same source as the Title Proper, that is
the statement that must be transcribed as given.

- But then there is 2.4.1.7 which allows us to clarify the role of the
person, etc., using square brackets but that specifically restricts that
clarification to "information [that] was taken from a source outside the
resource itself as instructed under 2.2.4."

I think that you have to go back to 2.4.2.2, and see that Statement of
Responsibility Relating to the Title Proper data can also come from:
b) another source within the resource itself (see 2.2.2) 
c) one of the other sources of information specified under 2.2.4.

So, if the information comes from "another source within the resource
itself" it is not given in square brackets, but if it comes from "one of the
other sources of information specified under 2.2.4" then 2.2.4 says " If
information taken from a source outside the resource itself is supplied in
any of the elements listed below [list includes Statement of
Responsibility], indicate that fact either by means of a note or by some
other means (e.g., through coding or the use of square brackets)."

So, if you use the square brackets you are implying that the information
came from outside the resource.

Which leaves only the note instructions at 2.20.3.5 for recording
clarification or roles in this situation: "Make notes on other details
relating to a statement of responsibility if they are considered to be
important for identification or access."

And in MARC terms that would mean that a note about clarification of role
would be given in a 500 general note as something like:

500    $a Cover clarifies responsibility relationships as: edited by Person
1 and Person 2.

This is far more clunky than using the square brackets, but it is in line
with restricting the use of square brackets to only be for "information
taken from a source outside the resource itself". 

How does that sound?

Deborah


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Janet Davis
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:11 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Sources of information for other title information

Not an answer, sorry, but we've recently come across a very similar issue
with statements of responsibility.  We have books with SORs varying between
the different sources of information, e.g.:

T.p. version: Person 1, Affiliation 1, Person 2, Affiliation 2 Cover
version: edited by Person 1 and Person 2 (and the people actually *are*
editors, not authors)

Then 2.4.2.2 (prefer same source as title proper, i.e. here the t.p.),
2.4.1.4 (transcribe as appears on source, here t.p.), and 2.4.1.7 (add text
clarifying relationship in square brackets) together seem to suggest
transcribing as:

[edited by] Person 1, Affiliation 1, Person 2, Affiliation 2

- but the reasoning given for the square brackets in 2.4.1.7 seems wrong, as
the 'supplied' text actually does appear on the resource, just not on the
t.p. itself.

One suggestion was to use the text as above but *without* square brackets. 
But then this seems wrong too, as the full text string:

edited by Person 1, Affiliation 1, Person 2, Affiliation 2

appears nowhere on the resource, yet this is supposed to be a transcribed
element.

I also feel that I must be missing something somewhere...

Thanks, Janet.

On Tue, 18 Dec 2012, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote:

> I'm mulling over RDA 2.3.4.2: "Take other title information from the 
> same source as the title proper."
[DF:] [snip]

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Janet Davis
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