Thanks Mr. Moore for your detailed and very informative answer. Best regards
Salman On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Moore, Richard <richard.mo...@bl.uk> wrote: > ** > Salman > > Here are some answers, as I understand it. > > The only qualifiers than can be used are those than correspond to elements > in RDA Chapter 9. > > >can we use qualifier in subfield $c which is defined as: > > >$c - Titles and other words associated with a name > >Includes qualifying information such as > >titles designating rank, office, or nobility, e.g., Sir > > Currently the RDA element Title of the Person (9.4) covers only: "a word > or phrase indicative of royalty, nobility, or ecclesiastical rank or > office, or a term of address for a person of religious vocation." So, for > example, "Queen", "Emperor", "Duke", "Pope", "Bishop"; and terms of address > for persons of religious vocation entered under given name: "Mother", > "Swami", etc.. See subsections of 9.4, and see also 9.19.1.2 for examples > of access points. > > Other terms of rank, honour or office such as "Sir", "Reverend", > "Captain", etc. do not fall under this element, so are not currently > allowed. However, last November JSC approved with changes a proposal > (6JSC/BL/3) to allow them, so once the revised text of the changes is > issued (hopefully this month) and the changes made to RDA (in April), they > will be permitted. > > >terms of address, e.g., Mrs. > > "Mrs." is only permitted in two cases: firstly, in 9.2.2.9.3 "Persons > Known by a Surname Only", for a person known only by a surname associated > with a word or phrase; e.g. "Read, Miss" and "Seuss, Dr.", and secondly in > 9.2.2.9.4 "Married Person Identified Only by a Partner's Name", e.g. > "Davis, Maxwell, Mrs." > > >initials of an academic degree or denoting membership in an > organization, e.g., F.L.A. > > No - does not fall under any RDA element so can not be used. > > >a roman numeral used with a surname > > Yes - following 9.2.2.9.5 "Words, Etc. Indicating Realtionship Following > Surname". Terms such as "Jr.", "Sr." and "III" are treated as part of the > name. > > >other words or phrases associated with the name, e.g., clockmaker, Saint. > > "Clockmaker" can be recorded as a Profession or Occupation following 9.16, > and included in the access point following 9.19.1.6. > > "Saint" can be recorded as an "Other designation" following 9.6, and > included in the access point following 9.19.1.2. > > The element "Other designation" currently includes only "Saint" and > "Spirit". However, last November JSC approved with changes a proposal > (6JSC/BL/4), that expands the scope of this element to include "other > appropriate designations", so once the revised text of the changes is > issued (hopefully this month) and the changes made to RDA (in April), this > element will be quite broad. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------- > > >EXAMPLES OF SITUATIONS : suppose there is an NAR already established as > [100-1- Haider, Salman]. > >Now while cataloging we come across a different person named as "Salman > Haider" > > >Question 1: Can we use Dr. in subfield c to differentiate NAR. (e.g. > only information available on the resource Dr. Salman Haider ; no other > information >available on the resource or on the web) > > Currently, no. Soon under 6JSC/BL/3, probably, yes (subject to the exact > revised text). > > Question 2: Can we use Ph. D. in subfield to differentiate NAR (e.g. only > information available on the resource Salman Haider, Ph. D. ; no other > information available on the resource or on the web) > > No. > > Question 3: Can we use period of activity of the person belonging to > 20th/21st century in subfield to differentiate NAR (e.g. only information > available on the resource Salman Haider ; no other information available on > the resource or on the web) > > Yes. RDA 9.3.4 and 9.19.1.5 do not limit the use of "Period of Activity of > the Person" to non-contemporary authors, nor does any LC-PCC-PS. > > I hope this is helpful. Please feel free to share on Google+. > > > Regards > Richard > _________________________ > Richard Moore > Authority Control Team Manager > The British Library > > Tel.: +44 (0)1937 546806 > E-mail: richard.mo...@bl.uk > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *salman haider > *Sent:* 08 January 2013 07:25 > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *Subject:* [RDA-L] Differentiating Names of Persons in RDA name authority > records: Questions posted on RDA Cataloging, Google+ Community > > > A question posted on RDA Cataloging <https://plus.google.com/communities/ > 114381713914946747854>, a Google+ Community. > > Join community and discuss/answer/comment on a question on > "Differentiating Names of Persons in RDA". > > According to RDA: Additions to the name are given as instructed under > 9.19.1.2–9.19.1.6 > ... > •9.19.1.2 (9.4 and 9.6): Title or other designation associated with the > person > –Required for certain names > > •9.19.1.3 (9.3.2/9.3.3): Date of birth and/or death > –Give if available > > •9.19.1.4 (9.5): Fuller form of name > –Add to differentiate (LC!) > > •9.19.1.5 (9.3.4): Period of activity of person > –Add to differentiate > > •9.19.1.6 (9.16): Profession or occupation > –Required for certain names; Can add to differentiate > > QUESTION: Can we still use qualifiers to 100 field according to MARC X00 - > Personal Names-General Information to differentialte in Name Authority > Records of different persons with same name > ------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------- > http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/adx00.html<http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.loc.gov%2Fmarc%2Fauthority%2Fadx00.html&h=oAQGa9rZ5AQGK8z1mIhKgOFDIzDAajCbGxAEElg-0wGdv1w&s=1> > > can we use qualifier in subfield $c which is defined as: > > $c - Titles and other words associated with a name > Includes qualifying information such as > •titles designating rank, office, or nobility, e.g., Sir > •terms of address, e.g., Mrs. > •initials of an academic degree or denoting membership in an organization, > e.g., F.L.A. > •a roman numeral used with a surname > •other words or phrases associated with the name, e.g., clockmaker, Saint. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------- > > EXAMPLES OF SITUATIONS : suppose there is an NAR already established as > [100-1- Haider, Salman]. Now while cataloging we come across a different > person named as "Salman Haider" > > Question 1: Can we use Dr. in subfield c to differentiate NAR. (e.g. only > information available on the resource Dr. Salman Haider ; no other > information available on the resource or on the web) > Question 2: Can we use Ph. D. in subfield to differentiate NAR (e.g. only > information available on the resource Salman Haider, Ph. D. ; no other > information available on the resource or on the web) > Question 3: Can we use period of activity of the person belonging to > 20th/21st century in subfield to differentiate NAR (e.g. only information > available on the resource Salman Haider ; no other information available on > the resource or on the web) > ************************************************************************** > Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk > > The British Library’s latest Annual Report and Accounts : > www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html > > Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. Adopt a Book. > www.bl.uk/adoptabook > > The Library's St Pancras site is WiFi - enabled > > ************************************************************************* > > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be > legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. 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