Thank you Joan and Steve.

*Pamela Withrow, MLIS*
Cataloger
Perma-Bound
217-291-1144


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:18 PM, McDonald, Stephen
<[email protected]>wrote:

>  From RDA 3.5.1.3 Recording Dimensions:****
>
> -------------****
>
> Unless instructed otherwise, record dimensions in centimetres to the next
> whole centimetre up, using the metric symbol *cm* (e.g., if the height
> measures 17.2 centimetres, record *18 cm*****
>
> ** **
>
> Alternative: ****
>
> Record dimensions in the system of measure preferred by the agency
> preparing the description. Abbreviate terms for units of measurement as
> instructed in appendix B (B.5.1), as applicable.****
>
> -------------****
>
> ** **
>
> The LC-PCC PS says:****
>
> -------------****
>
> *LC practice for Alternative:* Use inches for discs (RDA 3.5.1.4.4) and
> for all audio carriers; otherwise, follow the RDA instruction as written.*
> ***
>
> -------------****
>
> ** **
>
> The examples in the RDA Toolkit naturally follow the primary instructions
> in RDA, but many (most?) libraries will probably follow the Library of
> Congress recommendation and use inches for discs and audio carriers,
> continuing the practice from AACR2.****
>
> ** **
>
>
> Steve McDonald****
>
>
> [email protected]****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Pam Withrow
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:01 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] dimension of discs and end punctuations of 264
> field****
>
>  ** **
>
> The examples in the RDA Toolkit measure disc dimensions in centimeters
> rather than inches (as in AACR2).  Is this the new standard or cataloger's
> preference?****
>
> ** **
>
> *Pamela Withrow, MLIS*****
>
> Cataloger****
>
> Perma-Bound****
>
> 217-291-1144****
>
> ** **
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Joan Wang <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> I think that it is an email address to ask questions.
>
> Questions about RDA and LC's RDA plans may be directed to *LChelp4rda*@
> loc.gov
>
>
> Joan Wang
> Illinois Heartland Library System****
>
> ** **
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Dawn Grattino <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> Forgive my ignorance. I have just seen mention of Lchelp4rda in two
> differnent postings today. Is it a list-serv that I could subscribe to? If
> so, how does one subscribe? Or is it simply an e-mail address where I could
> ask a question?****
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks****
>
> ** **
>
> Dawn Grattino
> Senior Cataloger
> Catalog Department
> Cleveland Public Library
> 17133 Lakeshore Blvd.
> Cleveland, OH 44110-4006
> (phone) 216.623.2885
> (fax)   216.623.6980
> e-mail: [email protected]
> http://www.cpl.org****
>
> ** **
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Deborah Fritz" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Friday, March 29, 2013 4:11:13 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [RDA-L] dimension of discs and end punctuations of 264
> field****
>
> Joan,****
>
>  ****
>
> Yes, abbreviate ‘inches’ as ‘in.’ as per Appendix B, because 3.5.1.3
> (which gives us the alternative to use the system of measure we prefer)
> says “Abbreviate terms for units of measurement as instructed in appendix
> *B**[image: 
> http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]*<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdaappb>(
> *B.5.1**[image: 
> http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]*<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdaappb&target=rdab-51#rdab-51>),
> as applicable” and ‘inches’ is in that appendix and so is applicable.****
>
>  ****
>
> Just last month, I asked Lchelp4rda when a 264 would ever end with a
> closing parenthesis or a question mark, and was told: probably never. So we
> might see an amendment (removing those punctuation marks as ending
> punctuation for this field) in the  LC PCC PS for 1.7.1 sometime (probably
> not soon, given the much more important stuff they need to get done first)
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> Hope this helps,****
>
> Deborah****
>
>  ****
>
> -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  ****
>
> Deborah Fritz****
>
> TMQ, Inc.****
>
> [email protected]****
>
> www.marcofquality.com****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 28, 2013 2:00 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [RDA-L] dimension of discs and end punctuations of 264 field***
> *
>
>  ****
>
> Two tiny questions:
>
> For dimension of discs and all audio carrier, Library of Congress practice
> states "*Record the diameter of discs in inches"*. Does it still follow
> RDA Appendix B about the abbreviation? In B.7, inch should be abbreviated.
> Just want to make sure.
>
> For end punctuations of 264 filed, Library of Congress policy instructs 
> "*usually
> ends with a period, a closing parenthesis, a closing bracket, a question
> mark, or a hyphen*". I can understand that the 264 field ends with a
> period, a closing bracket, or a hyphen. In what situations, it ends with a
> closing parenthesis, or a question mark? Any examples? I thought that a
> question mark is always included in square brackets.
>
> Thank you.
> -- ****
>
> Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D.
> Cataloger -- CMC****
>
> Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office)
> 6725 Goshen Road
> Edwardsville, IL 62025
> 618.656.3216x409
> 618.656.9401Fax****
>
> ** **
>
>
>
>
> -- ****
>
> Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D.
> Cataloger -- CMC****
>
> Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office)
> 6725 Goshen Road
> Edwardsville, IL 62025
> 618.656.3216x409
> 618.656.9401Fax****
>
> ** **
>

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