19.1.1 tells you the source of information when you are recording relationships (access points) for persons, families, and corporate bodies associated with a work, so I'm afraid that doesn't help us here.
The source of information instructions for recording a corporate body as either a statement of responsibility (2.4.2.2) or a publisher (2.8.4.2) are found in Ch. 2. The real question here seems to me to be: if we have already recorded a corporate body once, as either a statement of responsibility (having determined the corporate body is the issuing body) or a publisher, then can we use the same statement again for another element? I remember a discussion (held some time ago) about 2.3.1.5 and "name as part of the title" and whether, if we enter a name as part of a title, we should repeat it as a statement of responsibility (since, unlike AACR, RDA does not say NOT to do so). I cannot find the discussion to quote from it directly, but the answer was that there is no special instruction in RDA about this because it is not needed, because if data has already been given as part of the title data, it cannot also be responsibility data. If this is a guiding principle (that we can only use a single statement for one purpose) and if you can only find one statement naming a corporate body, then I think you would have to decide whether the statement is naming the corporate body as issuing body or as publisher and give it accordingly. If you decide a statement is a responsibility statement (often based on layout) then remember that we do not 'guess' a publisher; we didn't under AACR, and we still don't, under RDA. So you would enter the corporate body as statement of responsibility, and you would have to enter [publisher not identified]. If you want to provide access via the corporate body, then do so and add a relationship designator as issuing body, but not as publisher. If you decide a statement is a publication statement (again, often based on layout) then enter the corporate body as Publisher Name, but not as Statement of Responsibility. If you want to provide access via the corporate body, then do so and you can add a relationship designator as publisher; but if you also want to add a relationship designator as issuing body, you then should record an Explanation of Relationship (32.2), in MARC in a 500 note. I know this sounds like convoluted reasoning (again!) but I think that it is important that we remember that we have never been allowed to guess a publisher, so if we don't *know* and cannot find out for *certain* who the publisher is, we should just happily admit it: [publisher not identified]; we should not guess that a distributer is also the publisher, or that a printer is also the publisher, or that the author is also the publisher-just enter them as they are stated and leave it at that. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. <mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com> debo...@marcofquality.com <http://www.marcofquality.com> www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of McDonald, Stephen Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:02 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Use of brackets in RDA records If you are following the instructions under 19.2.1.1.1 to determine that the publisher is also the creator, and the publisher name comes from the resource itself in accordance with 19.1.1, I don't believe that you need square brackets. Steve McDonald steve.mcdon...@tufts.edu From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [ <mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Crum, Cathy (KDLA) Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:20 AM To: <mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Use of brackets in RDA records Hi all, I have a question concerning the use of brackets and supplied information in RDA records. I know that according to RDA 2.2.4, if you take information from outside the resource, you can enclose that information in square brackets, but what if the information is on the resource but is used for another RDA element? We catalog numerous publications from state government agencies in which we only have a statement of responsibility in the imprint area, but not publication information. In these cases, we might use the statement of responsibility to supply the publication information if we judge that the agency could also be considered the publisher of the resource. Would we bracket this information in the 264 because it is supplied even though it does not come from outside the resource? I know that this is similar to the situation of using of the copyright date to supply the publication date, but I would still like to hear thoughts on this topic. Thanks, Cathy Cathy Crum Cataloging Supervisor State Library Services Kentucky Department for Libraries and Archives (502) 564-8300, ext. 227 <mailto:cathy.c...@ky.gov> cathy.c...@ky.gov