Let me rephrase my question. Thanks to Arthur's help. Does 6.2.2.10.3 "other compilations" includes selected works in a single form, and selected works not in a single form? If it is, the languages of the rule is too "grey" :)
For both categories, RDA tells us to record the preferred title for each of the works in a compilation. It also has an alternative: identify the parts collectively by recording a conventional collective title as applicable, followed by *Selections*. The example is *Novels. Selections*. I wonder how effective the alternative can be in the application of selected works not in a single form. A simple *Selections *seems to be more reasonable. Thanks for your time. I am also tired with the question :) Have a wonderful weekend! Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Joan Wang <jw...@illinoisheartland.org>wrote: > > I think the lack of any subsection in 6.2.2 for compilations by more > than one ? person/family/corporate body means there are no special rules > for those compilations. In other words, we don't use "conventional > collective titles" for those, so we default to whatever title the > compilation is known by (maybe the title proper). > > I still think that the preferred tile for a work is different from a title > proper found in a manifestation. So some instructions or references would > be helpful. > > Thanks, > Joan Wang > > > On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Joan Wang > <jw...@illinoisheartland.org>wrote: > >> > "two or more but not all works ... in a particular form" means your >> phrase >> > "incomplete works in a single form". (6.2.2.10.3 a) >> >> ??? >> >> by the way, I feel that a good word would be selected works in single >> form and selected works not in single form. >> >> > I think the lack of any subsection in 6.2.2 for compilations by more >> than one ? person/family/corporate body means there are no special rules >> for those compilations. In other words, we don't use "conventional >> collective titles" for those, so we default to whatever title the >> compilation is known by (maybe the title proper). >> >> Seems to be reasonable. >> >> Thanks to Arthur, >> Joan Wang >> >> >> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Arthur Liu <art....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Joan, >>> >>> My understanding is: >>> >>> "Complete works" means all the works by a person, in all forms that the >>> person worked in. (6.2.2.10.1) >>> >>> "Complete works in a single form" means all the works by a person in a >>> particular form, e.g. all the plays by a person, but not the novels by that >>> person. (6.2.2.10.2) >>> >>> "Other compilations of two or more works" means incomplete works, or a >>> compilation of two or more works by a person which does not constitute all >>> the works by that person, and does not constitute all the works by that >>> person in a particular form. (6.2.2.10.3) >>> >>> "two or more but not all works ... in a particular form" means your >>> phrase "incomplete works in a single form". (6.2.2.10.3 a) >>> >>> "two or more but not all works ... in various forms" means your >>> phrase "incomplete works not in a single form". (6.2.2.10.3 b) >>> >>> >>> Your phrase "complete works not in a single form" is simply 6.2.2.10.1. >>> >>> >>> For example, Person A wrote five plays and five novels. A compilation of >>> all ten works would be 6.2.2.10.1. A compilation of all 5 plays (but no >>> novels) would be 6.2.2.10.2 (same for a compilation of all 5 novels only). >>> A compilation of three of the plays only would be 6.2.2.10.3a. A >>> compilation of two of the plays and three of the novels would be >>> 6.2.2.10.3b. >>> >>> >>> I think the lack of any subsection in 6.2.2 for compilations by more >>> than one person/family/corporate body means there are no special rules for >>> those compilations. In other words, we don't use "conventional collective >>> titles" for those, so we default to whatever title the compilation is known >>> by (maybe the title proper). >>> >>> >>> Arthur Liu >>> Library Technician >>> John A. Volpe National Transportation Systems Center (U.S.) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Joan Wang <jw...@illinoisheartland.org >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, All >>>> >>>> I have a question about preferred title for a compilation. >>>> >>>> RDA 6.2.2.10 instructs us to record preferred title for a complication >>>> of works of one person/family/corporate body. It is organized by three >>>> sections: >>>> >>>> 6.2.2.10 Recording the Preferred Title for a Compilation of Works of *One >>>> Person, Family, or Corporate Body* >>>> >>>> - 6.2.2.10.1 complete works >>>> - 6.2.2.10.2 complete works in single form >>>> - 6.2.2.10.3 other complications of two or more works. >>>> >>>> I have a problem to understand 6.2.2.10.3. First of all, do we really >>>> need “of two or more works” in the heading? I assume that a compilation is >>>> always composed of more than one. If my understanding is correct, the term >>>> *compilation* already tells us that. >>>> >>>> Secondly, what are included in other complications? If following the >>>> logic inherent in the organization of 6.2.2.10. I would expect *incomplete >>>> works, complete works not in single form, incomplete works in single form, >>>> *and *incomplete works not in single form *after the two sections of >>>> *complete >>>> works* and *complete works in single form*. >>>> >>>> Actually under 6.2.2.10.3, it does have a condition: Record the >>>> preferred title for each of the works in a compilation that consists of: a) >>>> two or more *but not all* the works of one person, family, or >>>> corporate body, *in a particular form* or b) two or more *but not* all >>>> the works of one person, family, or corporate body, *in various forms*. >>>> >>>> >>>> Does a) condition means complete works not in single form and >>>> incomplete works not in single form? And b) means incomplete works? >>>> >>>> I assume that for these other compilations, we can record the preferred >>>> title for each of the works, or, use *Selections*, or, identify the >>>> parts collectively by recording a conventional collective title as >>>> applicable, followed by *Selections, *such as* Novels. Selections*.* *But >>>> RDA does not mention an alternative for *Selections*. Or we cannot use >>>> *Selections *at all? >>>> >>>> Also, is there a section for a compilation of works by more than one >>>> person/family/corporate body? >>>> >>>> RDA 6.27.1.4 (Compilations of Works by Different Persons, Families, or >>>> Corporate Bodies) does refer to 6.2.2 for constructing preferred title for >>>> a compilation of works by different persons, families, or corporate bodies. >>>> But I cannot find a relevant section under 6.2.2. I would expect that after >>>> 6.2.2.10. >>>> >>>> Any clarification would be appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Joan Wang >>>> >>>> Illinois Heartland Library System >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. >>>> Cataloger -- CMC >>>> Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) >>>> 6725 Goshen Road >>>> Edwardsville, IL 62025 >>>> 618.656.3216x409 >>>> 618.656.9401Fax >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. >> Cataloger -- CMC >> Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) >> 6725 Goshen Road >> Edwardsville, IL 62025 >> 618.656.3216x409 >> 618.656.9401Fax >> > > > > -- > Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. > Cataloger -- CMC > Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) > 6725 Goshen Road > Edwardsville, IL 62025 > 618.656.3216x409 > 618.656.9401Fax > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
