I would certainly put relationship designators for works at the beginning of the string. It doesn't make any sense at the end, and for display purposes it needs to be at the front. I suppose you could program your system to flip it to the front but why, when you can just as easily put it at the front in the first place? In my cataloging I always put this type of relationship designator at the front of the field. Perhaps LC has some sort of indexing problem, but it seems to me it's a lot easier to program the index to ignore subfield $i at the beginning of a string in 7XX than it is to program the system to flip the display so that the subfield $i, which you put at the end, displays at the front.
Bob Robert L. Maxwell Head, Special Collections and Formats Catalog Dept. 6728 Harold B. Lee Library Brigham Young University Provo, UT 84602 (801)422-5568 "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842. ________________________________ From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] on behalf of Sian Woolcock [sian.woolc...@adelaide.edu.au] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 8:54 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designators for related expressions, works etc for a music score Thank you everyone for your responses, they were very helpful. One further question if I may. There seems to be some confusion between where these relationship designators are positioned. In my example, as well as Andra Patterson’s and Adams the relationship designators are positioned at the beginning of field i.e. 700 12 ‡i Contains (expression): ‡a Neruda, Pablo, ‡d 1904-1973. ‡t Poems. ‡k Selections. ‡l English. However, in the LC example link Daniel kindly provided the i subfield is positioned at the end i.e. |a García Lorca, Federico, |d 1898-1936. |t Casa de Bernarda Alba. |i Based on (work): Which is correct? Kind regards Siân From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Paradis Daniel Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:20 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designators for related expressions, works etc for a music score I agree with Andra that “Musical setting of (work)” is not appropriate because the Neruda poems have been used as an inspiration for the musical work but not actually set to music. A better designator would be “based on (work)” (in which case the access point(s) would not include the subfield $l) or “based on (expression)”, if you think that the composer drew his inspiration from the English translation of the poems and not from the original version. This LC record provides an example: http://lccn.loc.gov/2013560310. This record is also an illustration of LC policy regarding instrumental works that are based on, inspired by, etc., one or two literary works (see LC-PCC PS for 25.0 http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=lcpschp25#<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=lcpschp25>). Daniel Paradis Bibliothécaire Direction du traitement documentaire des collections patrimoniales Bibliothèque et Archives nationales du Québec 2275, rue Holt Montréal (Québec) H2G 3H1 Téléphone : 514 873-1101, poste 3721 Télécopieur : 514 873-7296 daniel.para...@banq.qc.ca<mailto:daniel.para...@banq.qc.ca> http://www.banq.qc.ca<http://www.banq.qc.ca> Avis de confidentialité Ce courriel est une communication confidentielle et l’information qu’il contient est réservée à l’usage exclusif du destinataire. Si vous n’êtes pas le destinataire visé, vous n’avez aucun droit d’utiliser cette information, de la copier, de la distribuer ou de la diffuser. Si cette communication vous a été transmise par erreur, veuillez la détruire et nous en aviser immédiatement par courriel. ________________________________ De : Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] De la part de Andra Patterson Envoyé : 5 juin 2013 21:13 À : RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca<mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca> Objet : Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designators for related expressions, works etc for a music score Hi Siân, Here are my thoughts, for what they're worth! Yes, I think it is useful to record the relationship between Neruda's work and Daughtrey's concerto. This is recorded as a relationship to a related work (25.1) and it could be recorded as an unstructured description in the 500 rather than in 500 and 700 (see the 2nd example in the final box of examples at 25.1.1.3). As you point out, the text of the poems does not form part of the work, so the relationship designator "musical setting of (work)" is not appropriate. Using an unstructured description to record the relationship eliminates the need for a relationship designator. You could record a whole-part relationship as a 700 to record the fact that the poems are contained in the resource, using a relationship designator from J.3.4: 100 1 ‡a Daughtrey, Nathan ‡e composer. 240 10 ‡a Concertos, ‡m vibraphone, percussion ensemble 245 10 ‡a Concerto for vibraphone & percussion ensemble / ‡c Nathan Daughtrey. 500 ‡a "The two-movement work draws inspiration from two opposing poems by Pablo Neruda that depict night and day"--Program notes. 700 12 ‡i Contains (expression): ‡a Neruda, Pablo, ‡d 1904-1973. ‡t Poems. ‡k Selections. ‡l English. I apologise in advance if my thoughts are incorrect - I'm happy to be corrected! Best wishes, Andra Andra Patterson | Team Leader, Cataloguing Team 2 National Library of New Zealand PO Box 1467, Wellington 6140 Email: andra.patter...@dia.govt.nz<mailto:andra.patter...@dia.govt.nz> | Direct Dial: +64 4 460 2858 | Internal extension: 3258 | http://natlib.govt.nz/ From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Sian Woolcock Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 12:02 p.m. To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: [RDA-L] Relationship designators for related expressions, works etc for a music score Hi everyone, Hoping I could get some advice on a music score I am currently cataloguing in RDA. My score is a concerto for Vibraphone and Percussion ensemble. The program notes written in the score include two poems by Pablo Neruda (written in English) and the statement “The two-movement work draws inspiration from two opposing poems by Pablo Neruda that depict night and day”. The poems do not form any part of the actual music of the score (so would not be performed as they are neither narrated or sung). Whilst they will not be part of any performance of the score I want to make reference to Neruda as the poems were considered significant enough inspiration to the composer that their text was printed in the program notes. My questions are 1. Am I correct in my assumption that Neruda’s work/inspiration should be recorded in the record as a related expression? 2. Is a name title 700 entry (see below) the best way to do this? 3. Is the relationship designator I have used from Appendix J (J 2.2) of the toolkit the appropriate one given that the text does not form part of the actual work? (i.e. it’s not a libretto) - ‡i musical setting of (work). If not what is the alternative? 100 1 ‡a Daughtrey, Nathan ‡e composer. 240 1 0 ‡a Concertos, ‡m vibraphone, percussion ensemble 245 1 0 ‡a Concerto for vibraphone & percussion ensemble / ‡c Nathan Daughtrey. 500 ‡a "The two-movement work draws inspiration from two opposing poems by Pablo Neruda that depict night and day." -- Program notes. 700 1 2 ‡i musical setting of (work) ‡a Neruda, Pablo, ‡d 1904-1973. ‡t Poems. ‡k Selections. ‡l English. Apologies in advance if my questions are a bit too basic for the forum but I am fairly new to cataloguing. Thanks for any guidance you can offer. Kind regards Siân Siân Woolcock Assistant Metadata Librarian (Music) University of Adelaide Library The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph : +61 8 8313 5225 e-mail : sian.woolc...@adelaide.edu.au<mailto:sian.woolc...@adelaide.edu.au> [UoA_Uni_Lib_col_horz_sig] CRICOS Provider Number 00123M ----------------------------------------------------------- This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please do not read, save, forward, disclose, or copy the contents of this email. If this email has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete this email and any copies or links to this email completely and immediately from your system. No representation is made that this email is free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient.
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