A tiny question is about the capitalization. Is it upper-case like [Place of publication not identified] and [Publisher not identified], or lower-case?
Thanks for your help. Joan Wang On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Paradis Daniel <daniel.para...@banq.qc.ca>wrote: > According to LC's training material, a date such as "not after 2013" > would be coded as follows: > 008/06: q > 008/07-10: uuuu > 008/11-14: 2013 > > I assume that in the case of a "not before date", code "uuuu" would appear > in positions 11-14 instead. > > Daniel Paradis > > Bibliothécaire > Direction du traitement documentaire des collections patrimoniales > Bibliothèque et Archives nationales du Québec > > 2275, rue Holt > Montréal (Québec) H2G 3H1 > Téléphone : 514 873-1101, poste 3721 > Télécopieur : 514 873-7296 > daniel.para...@banq.qc.ca > http://www.banq.qc.ca > > Avis de confidentialité > Ce courriel est une communication confidentielle et l’information qu’il > contient est réservée à l’usage exclusif du destinataire. 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Si cette > communication vous a été transmise par erreur, veuillez la détruire et nous > en aviser immédiatement par courriel. > > ------------------------------ > *De:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > de la part de Robert Maxwell > *Date:* jeu. 2013-06-13 21:09 > *À:* RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca > *Objet :* Re: [RDA-L] 264 All are entity functions required? > > Julie, > > > > In addition to what Adam said, in current practice we are required to > include subfields $a, $b, and $c in 264 _1 even if we’ve included “core if” > elements later on, so your first example should read: > > > > 264 #1 $a Syracuse, New York : $b [publisher not identified], $c [date of > publication not identified] > 264 #4 $c ©2009 > > > > But as Adam noted, it’s better to try to supply a date (as in your second > example, which is fine). And actually, if you think about it, we probably > never need to record “date of publication not identified” for a published > item even if we have no evidence whatsoever about the date of publication, > because we do know one thing: it was published before it got to us for > cataloging, so you can always record, if nothing else, … $c [not after June > 13, 2013] > > > > (I know, I know, there’s the case where a publisher claims to have > published something in 2014 and we receive it in 2013, proving that things > sometimes get “published” after we get them, but let’s deal with that > problem only if the publisher has explicitly put a future publication date > on the piece—this has been extensively discussed before in this forum, I > believe.) > > > > Actually, I now have a question for the collective wisdom of the list. How > do you code the MARC fixed date fields if you have a “not before” or a “not > after” date of publication? I don’t see any explanation of this situation > in the documentation for 008/06 – 008/14. I could possibly see using “q” > and the date + 9999 for a “not before” date, but what about a “not after” > date? > > > > Bob > > > > Robert L. Maxwell > Head, Special Collections and Formats Catalog Dept. > 6728 Harold B. Lee Library > Brigham Young University > Provo, UT 84602 > (801)422-5568 > > "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves > to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842. > > > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Julie Moore > *Sent:* Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:27 PM > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] 264 All are entity functions required? > > > > If all that you have is the copyright date, then it should look like this, > right? > > 264 #1 $a Syracuse, New York : $b [publisher not identified] > 264 #4 $c ©2009 > > Is it OK or incorrect to add the copyright date in the 264 bracketed as an > inferred date? So it would look like this: > > 264 #1 $a Syracuse, New York : $b [publisher not identified], $c [2009] > 264 #4 $c ©2009 > > Thanks for your guidance! > > Best wishes, > Julie > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Adam L. Schiff <asch...@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > > I think many catalogers feel that since the copyright date is present on > the resource, they should record it even if they've given an inferred > publication date in 264 _1 $c. And some libraries have made it a local > core element. If it is present, I always record it. > > Adam Schiff > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Adam L. Schiff > Principal Cataloger > University of Washington Libraries > Box 352900 > Seattle, WA 98195-2900 > (206) 543-8409 > (206) 685-8782 fax > asch...@u.washington.edu > http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Julie Moore wrote: > > Follow up question ... why is it that I see the majority of RDA records > with multiple 264s having the 264 _1 (publication) and 264 _4? > > Is this because the only date they have is a copyright date ... so they put > the publisher info in the 264 _1 $a and $b and sometimes $c [copyright date > -- so thus, and inferred publication date?] ... and then they are putting > the copyright date in the 264 _4? > > Thanks, > Julie Moore > > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Adam L. Schiff <asch...@u.washington.edu > >wrote: > > Distribution would only be a core element if the publication element was > not identified. Manufacture would only be core element if neither the > publication nor the distribution element was identified. You COULD provide > everything you know but if you have publication place, publisher, and date > of publication, nothing else is required. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^**^^^^^^^^ > > > Adam L. Schiff > Principal Cataloger > University of Washington Libraries > Box 352900 > Seattle, WA 98195-2900 > (206) 543-8409 > (206) 685-8782 fax > asch...@u.washington.edu > > http://faculty.washington.edu/**~aschiff< > http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~**~~~~~~~~ > > > > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Julie Moore wrote: > > (My apologies for the cross-posting) > > > Dear All, > > In trying to move beyond the inexplicable inconsistent "period" issue ... > > Now we have with the 264 the possibilities of: > 2nd indicator entity functions of: > 0 = Production > 1 = Publication > 2 = Distribution > 3 = Manufacture Statements > 4 = Copyright notice date > > Are we required to provide all if we have all? If not, which ones are > required? > > I have noticed that in most cases, there is only a 1 (Publication) and a 4 > (copyright date). > > I would be grateful for some clarification on this. > > Best wishes, > Julie Moore > > > > -- > Julie Renee Moore > Head of Cataloging > California State University, Fresno > julie.renee.mo...@gmail.com > 559-278-5813 > > ?Those who bring sunshine to the lives of others cannot keep it from > themselves.?... James Matthew Barrie > > > > -- > Julie Renee Moore > Head of Cataloging > California State University, Fresno > julie.renee.mo...@gmail.com > 559-278-5813 > > ?Those who bring sunshine to the lives of others cannot keep it from > themselves.?... James Matthew Barrie > > > > > -- > > Julie Renee Moore > Head of Cataloging > California State University, Fresno > julie.renee.mo...@gmail.com > 559-278-5813 > “Those who bring sunshine to the lives of others cannot keep it from > themselves.” > > ... James Matthew Barrie > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
