Regarding the 6JSC/BL/13/LC response at
http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-BL-13-LC-response.pdf, please note a typo
in the first example on page 8:
Puymaigre, Th. de, (Theodore), comte
There should not be a comma after "de".
I also continue to have concerns that the current text nor the proposed
revisions deal with the very common issue of fictitious characters that
have same preferred name. I would like to see RDA address this somewhere.
Under RDA it is not clear whether 9.6.1.7 or 9.6.1.9 is applicable in such
a case.
For example, some PCC libraries are contributing records to the LC/NACO
Authority File like this one:
100 0_ Bean $c (Fictitious character from Card)
Does the qualifier "Fictitious character from Card" fall under "another
appropriate designation" from 9.6.1.7 or does it fall under 9.6.1.9?
9.6.1.9 is limited to use when non of the five attributes listed there are
sufficient or appropriate for distinguishing two or more persons with the
same name. None of those five attributes includes the designation for
fictitious and legendary persons, and yet that designation is equally
appropriate for two fictitious persons with the same name.
It seems to me therefore that for two fictitious persons who would
otherwise have the same access point, RDA tells you to record two
attributes: 1) Fictitious character, etc. from 9.6.1.7. 2) An other
designation to further distinguish the persons, from 9.6.1.9. That other
designation could be the surname or name of the creator of the character,
or perhaps something else, but would the additions be made like this?:
Bean (Fictitious character) (Card)
Bean (Fictitious character) (Barrows)
(and how would this be coded in MARC, with two $c's or one?)
If 9.6.1.7 is not appropriate in a situation like the one above, then I
think RDA needs to say so and indicate that 9.6.1.9 would be applicable
instead and an example should be provided to show that.
Adam Schiff
University of Washington Libraries
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On Tue, 1 Oct 2013, JSC Secretary wrote:
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 07:50:08 -0500
From: JSC Secretary <jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org>
To: "clement.arsena...@umontreal.ca" <clement.arsena...@umontreal.ca>,
"gcamp...@uwo.ca" <gcamp...@uwo.ca>, Anders Cato <anders.c...@btj.se>,
"jw...@cam.ac.uk" <jw...@cam.ac.uk>,
"ala-c...@ala.org" <ala-c...@ala.org>, "ru...@ala.org" <ru...@ala.org>,
"a...@loc.gov" <a...@loc.gov>, mary curran <mgcur...@uottawa.ca>,
Elena Escolano Rodriguez <eesc...@oc.mde.es>,
Graeme Forbes <g.for...@nls.uk>, "gale...@vatlib.it" <gale...@vatlib.it>,
Massimo Gentili-Tedeschi <massimo.gentilitedes...@beniculturali.it>,
Mary Ghikas <mghi...@ala.org>, "r.goem...@dnb.de" <r.goem...@dnb.de>,
Ben Gu <b...@nlc.gov.cn>, "bg...@yahoo.com" <bg...@yahoo.com>,
Tuula Haapam?ki <tuula.haapam...@helsinki.fi>,
John Hostage <host...@law.harvard.edu>,
"lynne.howa...@utoronto.ca" <lynne.howa...@utoronto.ca>,
"stuart.h...@warwick.ac.uk" <stuart.h...@warwick.ac.uk>,
"galen.jo...@llgc.org.uk" <galen.jo...@llgc.org.uk>,
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"kas...@rsl.ru" <kas...@rsl.ru>,
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"caroline.k...@bl.uk" <caroline.k...@bl.uk>,
F. Tim Knight <tkni...@osgoode.yorku.ca>,
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"n.nichol...@nls.uk" <n.nichol...@nls.uk>,
"a.o-br...@lboro.ac.uk" <a.o-br...@lboro.ac.uk>,
Christine Oliver <chris.oli...@mcgill.ca>,
"daniel.para...@banq.qc.ca" <daniel.para...@banq.qc.ca>,
"patt...@oclc.org" <patt...@oclc.org>,
"patricia.r...@banq.qc.ca" <patricia.r...@banq.qc.ca>,
"claire.r...@bl.uk" <claire.r...@bl.uk>,
Adam L. Schiff <asch...@u.washington.edu>, "a...@loc.gov" <a...@loc.gov>,
"j.tomlin...@wellcome.ac.uk" <j.tomlin...@wellcome.ac.uk>,
"rwa...@nla.gov.au" <rwa...@nla.gov.au>,
"sharry.wat...@gov.ab.ca" <sharry.wat...@gov.ab.ca>,
"jay_we...@oclc.org" <jay_we...@oclc.org>,
Mirna Willer <mwil...@unizd.hr>,
"jenny.wri...@bibdsl.co.uk" <jenny.wri...@bibdsl.co.uk>,
"k...@loc.gov" <k...@loc.gov>, Hanne H?rl Hansen <h...@dbc.dk>,
"laura.pet...@kb.nl" <laura.pet...@kb.nl>,
"jstep...@nla.gov.au" <jstep...@nla.gov.au>,
"d.we...@curtin.edu.au" <d.we...@curtin.edu.au>,
George Prager <prag...@exchange.law.nyu.edu>,
"a.krawal...@dnb.de" <a.krawal...@dnb.de>,
"pam.cole...@bl.uk" <pam.cole...@bl.uk>,
"Gryspeerdt, Katharine" <katharine.gryspee...@bl.uk>,
"peter_ro...@hms.harvard.edu" <peter_ro...@hms.harvard.edu>,
"laura....@parl.gc.ca" <laura....@parl.gc.ca>,
alison.harding-hl...@bac-lac.gc.ca, kimberly-anne.do...@bac-lac.gc.ca,
Emma Cross <emma_cr...@carleton.ca>, sherri.sunst...@carleton.ca
Cc: JSC Chair <jscch...@rdatoolkit.org>, Dave Reser <d...@loc.gov>,
JOHN C ATTIG <jx...@psu.edu>, "kglen...@umd.edu" <kglen...@umd.edu>,
"Leonard, William" <william.leon...@bac-lac.gc.ca>,
Kevin Marsh <kevin.ma...@slwa.wa.gov.au>,
Catherine Argus <car...@nla.gov.au>, "Danskin, Alan" <alan.dans...@bl.uk>,
"Young, Thurstan" <thurstan.yo...@bl.uk>,
Gordon Dunsire <gor...@gordondunsire.com>,
"R?schlau, Edith" <e.roesch...@dnb.de>, rese...@verizon.net
Subject: Additional JSC response documents
Dear RDA colleagues,
The following ALA and LC responses for the November 2013 JSC meeting are
available on the public website (http://www.rda-jsc.org/workingnew.html):
6JSC/ACOC/8/LC response
6JSC/ALA/22/LC response
6JSC/ALA/23/LC response
6JSC/ALA/25/LC response
6JSC/ALA/26/LC response
6JSC/ALA/Discussion/1/LC response
6JSC/ALA/Discussion/2/LC response
6JSC/ALA/Discussion/3/LC response
6JSC/ALA rep/6/LC response
6JSC/BL/10/ALA response
6JSC/BL/10/LC response
6JSC/BL/13/LC response
6JSC/BL/14/rev/ALA response
6JSC/CCC/11/ALA response
6JSC/CCC/11/LC response
6JSC/CCC/12/ALA response
6JSC/CCC/14/LC response
6JSC/Chair/8/LC response
6JSC/CILIP rep/3/LC response
6JSC/DNB/1/ALA response
6JSC/DNB/1/LC response
6JSC/DNB/2/LC response
6JSC/DNB/DIscussion/1/LC response
6JSC/EURIG/Discussion/2/LC response
6JSC/EURIG/Discussion/3/LC response
6JSC/EURIG/Discussion/4/LC response
6JSC/EURIG/Discussion/5/LC response
6JSC/Music/1/LC response
6JSC/Music/2/rev/ALA response
6JSC/Music/2/rev/LC response
6JSC/Music/3/LC response
Regards, Judy Kuhagen
JSC Secretary
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